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G33MD00D 27th November 2004 01:57

I heard you saying in one of your previous posts that Radeon doesn't work in SLI? you can't work with two Radeon's on a nforce 4?

So if I would buy the radeon x800 XT PCI-E and a neo4 (nforce 4) SLI It would be a waste of money (on a later opinion) because It will not work with 2 Radeon PCI-E cards?

kristos 27th November 2004 02:20

not as of yet.

ati is working on it but we'll have to wait and see how it's going to work...

maybe they'll have their own sli clone, maybe they'll have cards for an sli setup, perhaps even on nforce4
maybe so many things..

it all depends on how well nvidia has thier sli technology pattented ;)


Some people say ati won't be able to make it work and if they do, it won't be competitive with nvidia's sli but I don't know about that. I have faith in ati ;p
They knocked nvidia from the throne when nobody else thought it possible, they kept that nr1 positions when everyone said nvidia would blow them away in no time. although they're not know for it, they have some desent chipsets... their windows drivers are as good as can be expected...
I think ATI is capable of cooking up their own sli like variant :)

it doesn't seem to be that hard eather if a smaller company like alienware can come up with a way to do it, ati should be able to do it and do it better too.

SuAside 27th November 2004 11:50

small comment:

PCI-X = PCI extended (on workstations & the like)
PCI-E = PCI-Extreme
PCX = term used by some graphics card manufacturers for PCI-E compatible card

beware of what you use Kristos, or you'll confuse the newbiez :)

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 12:18

is PCI-Extreme compatible with de nforce 4 slot?

+ I don't know what to do right now, can someone give me advice what I best should do? I could buy a Radeon X800 XT PCI-E ... but how big or small are the changes to put a second one after a year, ... ?

a) just buying a geforce 6800 GT PCI-E would be perfect, I could buy the same one a year later, ... and put them in SLI... but I don't find a Geforce 6800 GT PCI-E online, when will they come? I need my pc around 20 dec!

a) maybe buying a geforce 6600 GT, those are in PCI-E.. but those cards are exactly a generation before the geforce 6800 & x800 ..... maybe buying 2 geforce 6600 GT's and use them already with the SLI function.. 2x geforce 6600 GT = radeon x800xt = geforce 6800 GT ... but I think if you put two geforce 6600 gt's you don't have 2x the power?

:(

Gamer 27th November 2004 13:00

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2258

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 13:43

I read the article and had a discussion with a friend who knows a lot of these new things, I'm not planning to buy the diamond version, I'll buy the nforce 4 platinum.

Just for confirmation, nforce 4 supports DDR 1 ram right? because he wasn't sure of the fact nforce 4 is DDR 2 or DDR1.

what should I best buy as a single graka then? the radeon x800 xt for 435€?

kristos 27th November 2004 14:35

Quote:

Originally posted by SuAside
small comment:

PCI-X = PCI extended (on workstations & the like)
PCI-E = PCI-Extreme
PCX = term used by some graphics card manufacturers for PCI-E compatible card

beware of what you use Kristos, or you'll confuse the newbiez :)

I didn't know, and neather do quite a few reviewers :s

I've seen PCX on the boxes from pci-express video cards but I still don't really know what PCI extended and PCI extreme do.. :)

and then what exactly is the correct acronym for PCI-Express?




yes it supports ddr:
Quote:

Our test configuration was as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 (2.6GHz)

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI

2 x 512MB Corsair DDR400

NVIDIA Graphics Cards:

NVIDIA GeForce 6600GT x 2
NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT x 2

NVIDIA 66.75 Drivers

Windows XP with DirectX 9.0c
what card you should buy depends on the games you would like to play, if you'll be using it for linux or not, howmuch you are willing to spend, ...

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 15:09

I'm not going to use my PC with linux, question about the graka's:

the Geforce 6600 GT is there a big difference with the geforce 6800 GT? can you run all the games on full detail and settings etc with a geforce 6600 GT?

because I'll maybe buy a 512 ram graka when many games are running on the unreal 3 engine, so it's maybe best I'll first buy a geforce 6600 GT and in a year a geforce 7xxx maybe

kristos 27th November 2004 15:20

6600GT performance is rather poor compared to the 6800GT, even 2 6600GT's in SLI aren't much better then a single 6800GT on average and on more common resolutions and settings.

read the anandtech review gamer linked.
or if you don't have the time, at least check out graphs like I did ;)


oh and check this out too, some more sli reviews from anandtech and a rather "get-your-head-out-of-the-clouds view" (ontnuchterende kijk) on the sli matters by overclockers..
http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...threadid=10405

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 15:28

I read the article, but... will the geforce 6600 GT run games like: world of warcraft, half life 2, battlefield 2, stalker on all the higest things? Or do I need to buy a geforce 6800 GT than?


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