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jort 27th November 2004 00:05

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Originally posted by G33MD00D
x800 XT pe, doesn't the pe stands for platinum?
your correct.
=> platinum edition

gf 6800GT is a downclocked Ultra so.
you can oc till your @ ultra speeds.
it has pixel shader 3.0 whats not been used yet so a future feature.

ati x800xt is a, very good card too.
uses features that games use atm

depents what games you play, doom3 will be better on NV then ATI,
and HL2 will go better on ATI then NV so.

only difference is the prize
6800 gt "256mb" about 440-480€
x800 pro 415-460€
x800xt 500-540€

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 00:13

Quote:

Originally posted by jort

only difference is the prize
6800 gt "256mb" about 440-480€
x800 pro 415-460€
x800xt 500-540€

But on german sites like www.e-bug.de radeon X800 XT PCI-E only costs around 430€
example: http://www.e-bug.de/cgi-ssl/preise.c...=16156&piname='Sapphire+256MB+Radeon+X800+XT+PCI-E+FRTL'&hbestnr='1174248 = 430€

so I could best pick the Radeon X800 XT?



But I don't know... is it really a decent effort to buy a nforce 4 with a PCI-E graka at the moment? Will AGP graka's dissapear from the market, and have no future or what? I'm stuck :(

kristos 27th November 2004 00:41

don't doom³ and far-cry (²nd patch and ³rd patch) already use directX9.0c ?

also, the 6800 GT has slower memory then the ultra and different timings in the bios for the ram.

If you're going to upgrade to A64 then nforce4 is the way to go right now and so is pci-x but that doesn't mean that agp is out. I think you'll be able to find agp cards in the shops for at least another year before you have to turn to the seccond hand market but then again; he bigger shops are already no longer selling s748 processors and hardly have s748 motherboards. same story with Axp processors and motherboards..

If I had to move to another platform, I'd save enough money to get a super duper PSU, an nforce4 SLI and 2 identical pci-x 6800GT's.
the psu because you have to power that a64 and two bad *** vidcards and god knows what else.
2 gt's because ati doesn't have sli compatible cards as of yet and because if you buy one now and you buy one later, you may end up with different bios revisions or minor board layout changes..

If the SLI function isn't an absolute must you can still choose for an nfroce4 + pci-x card or an nforce3 + agp card
the psu may not be an absolute must but going on what you said in your other thread I'm thinking you have a very poor psu...

http://www.over-clock.com/cgi-bin/sh...ml%23a620#a620
this is one of the cheapest pci-x cards I know of. I thought they had another one from connect3D or something but I can't' seem to find it anymore...

*edit* decent prices here aswell: http://www.mad-moxx.de/view_artikel_list.php?cat_id=74

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 00:59

psu means power supply right? Well the 380 Watt of a Sonata isn't enough for a nforce 4 with 2 graka's?
What's PCI-X? is it something less good as the PCI-Express but compatible on a nforce 4 motherboard? I don't see much PCI-X cards on the web...

kristos 27th November 2004 01:18

pci-x = pci express
psu = power supply unit

my guess is that that 380w psu from sonata will be a no go with two sli graka's since those are all very power hungry

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 01:19

P.s: you gave me the following link: http://www.mad-moxx.de/view_artikel_list.php?cat_id=74 well.. If I look to the specs I see AGP x8, thats no PCI-X ?

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 01:24

I think.. If I would look to the future upgrades I should better buy a nforce 4 motherboard SLI and a geforce 6800 GT PCI-E

--> I can buy one year later or something like that a new geforce and put them together because of the SLI function.

I can always just buy a new PSU if I'm planning to upgrade? :)

P.S: would it be possible with Nvidia for example to put a geforce 6800 GT in SLI with a Geforce 7 for example? (Geforce 7 is just made up. ;))

kristos 27th November 2004 01:37

I know but you weren't sure if you were going to go agp or pci-x so I thought it wouldn't matter.
http://www.mad-moxx.de/view_artikel_list.php?cat_id=89 look at the bottom, two x800xt's with pci-x

offcourse you can always get a better psu if the one you have now isn't strong enough and if you have the money for it ;)

most likely, you can buy a 6800GT now and buy another one a year later and they will most likely work but the chance of it not working (as small as that chance is) are bigger if you buy one now and one later then when you would buy them at the same time. for all the reasons gamer already mentioned. and unless they stick to the reference design, you probably can't even use 2 6800gt's from different companies.

and normally, you will not be able to place a geforce 6800 and a geforce 7*** in an sli configuration. at leats not working ;)

G33MD00D 27th November 2004 01:46

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Originally posted by kristos
most likely, you can buy a 6800GT now and buy another one a year later and they will most likely work but the chance of it not working (as small as that chance is) are bigger if you buy one now and one later then when you would buy them at the same time.
Than the question now is... where can I find a Geforce 6800 GT for a nforce 4 motherboard? I don't see a geforce 6800 GT PCI-E on the web.. or is it also possible with a AGP one?
for the Geforce 6600 there are enough PCI-X versions..

kristos 27th November 2004 01:53

that I don't know :)

You'll have to wait a little longer, maybe by the time SLI boards from different brands are on the market, there will also be pci-x 6800GT's :D

it's not possible with agp


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