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10th May 2010, 12:56 | #31 |
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| I absolutely agree with you on Flash. It should be the people's choice if they want to use it or not. If it impacts battery life or stability then people can choose not to use it. But there should be choice. The lack of flash has nothing to do with battery life or stability though, it's Apple's way of keeping their system closed... In that way I thought Jobs "letter on flash" was hilarious. He's trying to justify Apple's greed... The lack of flash still doesn't diminish iPad's form factor or easy of use, and the fact that it's the perfect tool to do the (limited) things that it does. More so than any netbook. |
10th May 2010, 13:19 | #32 | |
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Still, the price is too high, but that's usualy the case with every new product. First you rip off the early adopters before making it available for the mass market . | |
10th May 2010, 14:13 | #33 | ||
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10th May 2010, 14:21 | #34 | |
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Anyway, you're back to comparing a netbook to the ipad, which is no comparison at all. For me, a device with the capabilities, form factor, ease of use and way of interacting with of the ipad is worth €499, absolutely. So it is for millions of other people. Who are you to say otherwise ? Also for me, a netbook is not worth €350, or even €299 for that sake.I have no interest in a netbook in whatever form. To you this can be different. | |
10th May 2010, 14:24 | #35 | ||
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yes I think that describes iPad... AS WELL AS A NETBOOK. but hey... "iPad is not comparable to anything so must pay a premium for it", right? NOPE. if you you are happy paying $500+ for a 16gb media player... that's your choice, but don't start stating fact that it's worth that price, while clearly it's an overpriced picture frame... .. no wait.. a picture frame has WIFI and USB ports. Quote:
but who am I wanting more product for less money. I should be like you, wanting to pay more for less.
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10th May 2010, 14:26 | #36 |
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| I agree with everithing Thorgal says JMke, you're a Apple / mac hater
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10th May 2010, 14:33 | #37 |
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| no I'm not a Apple/Mac hater. Please quote me where I say iPad is bad or sucks? i'm not discussing the product. all I'm pointing out is that it's bad value at the suggested price point. nothing more, nothing less. IYou're just also brainwashed into thinking that an oversized iPod with only 16gb is worth $500 make it $250 and I'll consider buying one
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10th May 2010, 14:52 | #38 | |
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Last time I looked every iPad had wifi, but surely not every picture frame And it's exactly this kind of sloganesk speech that gives people the name "Apple haters". If you write that iPad is not a bad product per se (not talking price then), why rate it as a picture frame then ? You can find some for €25 at your local kruidvat if you like | |
10th May 2010, 15:04 | #39 | |
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if you look at what this device can do, and look up a product which has the same/more features, you'll find that such a device is <$400. So PRICE WISE, IPAD as a product, is priced too high; FOR ME, two things should change; - EITHER decrease the price to match the feature set - OR increase the feature set to match the price if HP Slate was released at same price point with same feature set, I would use the exact same arguments. So this is no "mac hate".
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10th May 2010, 15:12 | #40 |
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| That is basically all that they are. Netbook = ultracheap notebook. Very many people can't afford a full notebook but need one for mobile document work or taking notes. Before netbooks came about, the cheapest notebooks had hardware so stripped down that they offered almost no battery life whatsoever. Tiny batteries, power hogging processors (using last gen parts and process nodes), and large screens all didn't help. But not many people realized that back then mobile Celerons have Speedstep disabled and often lacked power management. Take a full size laptop, cut the battery capacity in half, use a slow Celeron processor, and remember that Speedstep is disabled by Intel so the CPU runs at full speed/voltage, and you should see why netbooks became such a hit. At the time Netbooks offered as good or better performance, much better battery life and all at cheaper prices. As far as the iPad price goes... it is well known that Apple targets a 50% gross margin on all their products. So yes, I'm sure the iPad is overpriced. Why even argue a netbook would be better... you can buy a full 12-13.3" CULV notebook for the same price as an iPad. That says it all right there. |
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