kristos

that may very well be true.

but...

sapphire used to have some really cheap 9800pro's. the reason they were so cheap because you got little more then the vidcard.

the Sapphire X800XT PCIe on over-clock costs about 512€ give or take a few.

but Sapphire has two X800XT PCIe packages: full retail and lite retail.

the one on e-bug may be the lite retail and the one on over-clock may be the full retail.


here are the specs if you want:

full retail specs
lite retail specs


on snogard, it's also 430€ for the sapphire atlantis X800XT PCIe ViVo

and ... they have 6800 from MSI in PCIe but I think it's 6800LE or whatever it's called, the poorest performer in the 6800 range

G33MD00D

hmm is it possible to overclock that lite retail to a full retail than?

kristos

same card, less extra's

has nothing to do with the features on the card.

G33MD00D

Can you tell me more about those extra's the full version has? Is the x800xt lite retail better than the geforce 6800 GT or are they pretty equal?

G33MD00D

can anyone tell me thos extra's the lite retail hasn't?

G33MD00D

I read in an news article that the X850 will be only PCI-E.. I definetly need to buy a PCI-E motherboard... AGP will dissapear for sure.

When will the x850 come in Europe? maybe waiting for that one? but thats probably around march 2005? :/

And can someone please tell me the difference between the lite retail and the full retail of the x800 XT? (those extra's!!)

I probably need to make a descision in these days if I want my PC on 20 december so please help me.

PS: I know there is a MSI Platinum (no SLI) and a MSI diamond (SLI)) I'm not going to use SLI, so I should buy the platinum version right? But are these the same mainboard: (platinum)

http://www.e-bug.de/cgi-ssl/preise.c...'&hbestnr= 166€

& http://www.snogard.de/content.php?ar...=145&file=180€

G33MD00D

I'm sorry for all my posts after each other but I saw this on the internet:

http://www.mad-moxx.de/view_artikel.php?id=467
there stands: radeon x800 xt FULL retail for 450€

kristos

I'd go for the x800xt. It performs better then the 6800GT most of the time, not all the time though.

the difference between full retail and lite retail is, like a said before, the software bundle and all the little cables and connectors you probably will never use anyway.

this is what you get with the full retail version:
this is what you probably will get with the lite retail version:

I think (not 100% sure, didn't look at it in detail) that the board from e-bug is the same board as that from snogard but the picture for the board on e-bug is wrong, that's a picture of an sli board.


oh, and even if you ordered yesterday, you probably won't get all of it by the 20th december so be cool, do some research and THEN make up your mind...

G33MD00D

Gigabyte So939 K8NSNXP-939: http://www.digitalseeds.be/product_i...oducts_id=1435

is that the MSI Nforce 4 Platinum??

Gamer

no, Gigabytes version of Nforce 3.
don't be afraid to use Google my friend.

and use the edit fuction please.

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