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blind_ripper 17th June 2007 20:49

single card WR goal :D
 
yes yes here we go .
k this week i have 2 HD X2900XT's incoming , and have some nice planning .
the goal is to take down at least more then 1 single card WR , massman and i will be heading up the road where the giants battle .
ordered 35L LN² , massman will bring one or both his piotres GFX containers i have my dragon evo for cpu .
main goal is 05 then 06 , 01 , 03 .
i'll be having updates from max air and cascade clocks , because the software tools to oc in CF are not done yet, will only do single card with the best one of the two .
will we exceed in ur goal ? will see next sunday !


step 1 preparing the motherboard for heavy cooling .
first defense against condensation and death motherboard is a spray that lays a fine layer of silicon on the pcb.
cover the pci/pci-e slots with tape and the rest of the components that dont need the spray or that may not be sprayed .
and spray away , not do this in a well ventilated room !
let it dry in for a night .

to be continued :p

john als er groove typo's in staan ga uw gang , pics volgen morgen ;-)

Gamer 18th June 2007 15:23

Good luck.
You'll need it :p

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 16:05



i will need more then luck bro skill will be need hard ;) , just finished with setting up windows ;)

Pardons 18th June 2007 16:45

I hope you are aiming for Xt wr records and not general records, 03 /06/01 ain't going to happen...
Good luck though!

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pardons (Post 146499)
I hope you are aiming for Xt wr records and not general records, 03 /06/01 ain't going to happen...
Good luck though!

lets see if i can break kinc is clocks on a brazed container :D, the cola trick will have to do the job on taking the heat :p

jmke 18th June 2007 17:04

"the cola trick" is drinking 2L bottle to keep yourself awake?:p

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 146501)
"the cola trick" is drinking 2L bottle to keep yourself awake?:p

nah old man :p
i have this under the benching desk to keep me awake ;)

this is the cola trick !

ask witte , this way i can hold the load off a quad core like hell u will see sunday how high see will fly !

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by koensa (Post 146503)
are the results on the P5K the same as on the delux edition?
cuz for what i have read,the P4K n delux doenst use alu capacitators,

or are those just a marketing trick/gimmick?

the P5K has all full solid caps ;) .
the only differens is one more option in bios and thats it :p its the vdroop option , there we have mods for

jmke 18th June 2007 17:21

no clear response on the "cola trick" , still stands for "boozing it up" in my book

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 146507)
no clear response on the "cola trick" , still stands for "boozing it up" in my book

give me one day without cola and il die , il even kill for it :p

Massman 18th June 2007 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 146507)
no clear response on the "cola trick" , still stands for "boozing it up" in my book

It has something to do with keeping the lnē temp from fluctuating to much :)

I'm really looking forward to sunday ... |D

jmke 18th June 2007 18:35

anything more scientific than "it has something to do with"? :)

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 146514)
anything more scientific than "it has something to do with"? :)

well it hard to explain , but witte whase surely exprest by the Lnē :D.
Lnē has a boiling point off -196°C or so , to get to that point u need to have a surten amount of Lnē .
the stuff in cola (sugger , the stuff that forms gas dont know the name) in contact with Lnē make's it boil very fast at less Lnē .
the controll is 2°C less controll but the heat absorption is mutch bigger , this what we need .
becaus a quad puts out a huge amount off heat after 1.62vcore , normaal Lnē cant keep up and temps start to rise .
the cola trick is a nice add , it whase found by a little fauld @ ZDnet when we benched there .
little chunks of cola fall in to pot , there is where i saw what happed .
so i did the same thing here @ my home and found out that it helps with high load heat out put .
im really the finder of this trick so all credits come to me .
if i get the WR in 05 il put out the trick on XS , im sure some will say that is allready know but if asked vince (kingpin) and no one did this .
he will be testing it soon 2 :p

no u guys know it so hehe

Massman 18th June 2007 19:00

Sweet, that's one for the article :D

jmke 18th June 2007 19:18

so Coke is an accelerator for evaporating LN2 ?

DId you spill some by accident to find this out? ;)

blind_ripper 18th June 2007 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 146525)
so Coke is an accelerator for evaporating LN2 ?

DId you spill some by accident to find this out? ;)

spilled some in the bucked where we refilled the pot with , phase cooling a guy Can of cola in the Ln² it started to foam and some fell in to the bucked froze up and there we had it little pieces whet into the tube there u have it .
second time i did this to see if it really worked and it did :p

jmke 18th June 2007 19:29

most discoveries are made "by accident" indeed :D

geoffrey 18th June 2007 22:11

Indeed, Coke (like in Coca Cola ;)) really seem to have an impact on LN2 cooling performance. First you'll have take a small amount of coke and deepfreez it, then you'll have to break the frozen Cola appart into little chunks which are then trown inside you ALU/CU cooling tube. Then add LN2 and do the regular LN2 benchmarking stuff...

What would be the cause of this? I don't think it's is because of a gas escaping from the coke-chunks, that way the effect would go away after a while which and on first sight that didn't seem to happen. Maybe it's because Cola is based on water, which on his turn can handle heat quite good and theirefore causes rapid LN2 boiling. Or maybe not, I'm no engineer :)

In the end it's hard to judge for me if it really worked, because I didn't compare with or without Coke added, though there was not much swing between idle and load which I though was a real problem when benchmarking with LN2. Also, if this trick does work, this would also mean that there wold be a optimal LN2-Cola mix for each kind of tube. If you're bored you know what to do :)

blind_ripper 19th June 2007 06:21

lol yeah temp swinging :p , one thing u can be sure temps only go down this way .
4.8ghz 06 and i got to low temps and hitted coldbug :D.
geoffrey i dont think there is a exact amount of cola/LNē mix , but i know that u dont have to use mutch ;) .
hope to see u playing around with LNē soon bro , give me call if u need the dewar :p

blind_ripper 21st June 2007 22:20

il be shutting down the contest for now untill sunday when i and massman benched .
have some bad and some good news .
air liqued in aalter is closing from this friday , but the good part is that thy give me a number from where i can get LNē from now on .
beernem is 1 mutch closer and i can get all evenighs after 5pm , hope the price will be the same .

Massman 23rd June 2007 19:34

Can someone lend us a 3dmark05 Pro licence? We really need one to see our scores without having to upload them all the time

Gamer 23rd June 2007 20:47

A licence can only be used once with one emailadress.
Sorry, it won't work that way.

Massman 23rd June 2007 20:59

Damn .. that sucks

blind_ripper 23rd June 2007 22:07

snelle test voor morgen .
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3177496
op air zat kaartje met atitool aan 895core en 1017mem .
and a little pic from what u will be looking @ tomorrow
Attachment 851

Massman 23rd June 2007 22:15

lol, nog een kleine 4k en ge zit al aan Macci :p

easypanic 23rd June 2007 22:58

Save score, open the file with excel.

Should work ;), no need for license ;)

Massman 23rd June 2007 23:00

Does that work for 3dmark05 too?

(Notice how I don't remember this ... I haven't benched for too long :angry:)

easypanic 23rd June 2007 23:03

MMM, I used it with 3D06, that I know for sure...

blind_ripper 24th June 2007 16:35

mision not fauld but not passed :no: .
de kaart hield er mee op dees morgen op air , zomaar :s .
P5K heeft mss een corrupte bios , zal morgen nog zien .
maar we hebben wel ons denk ik veel geamuseert , 6300 @ 620fsb ge zou is moet zien jong .
WR pi , Wprime 32m/1024 is van ons ;) , als men 2de X2900XT er is ga ik verder testen .
we hebben schone pics van 6200 onder Lnē :D !
piotke call me on msn plz

Massman 24th June 2007 18:26

Yeah, the card booted into windows and then just stopped working ... :(

I'll upload the E6300 results within a few minutes. The Cpu-z you'll see is done with 1.57v. Even with 1.7v, we couldn't get any higher ... so maybe we just need a board with more FSB :D

I'll upload some pics too :)

piotke 24th June 2007 18:28

piotke at work, pm me.

Massman 24th June 2007 18:43





wPrimes will follow, cpu-z verification files are still on blinds harddisk. We managed to to 4375 and prolly fsb limited. Next time we really need to get the PCMark and Spi32M wr :)

Massman 24th June 2007 19:10

7 Attachment(s)
Watch out when you see this car cruising ... I might be in it |D



Ready to be powered up ...



This was still good :)



Even got it to boot into windows



Switching to GF6200 + QX6700



Frost everywhere





We couldn't do serious 3d benching as we had never worked with the QX and DFI before ... maybe next time :)

jmke 24th June 2007 19:33

What clock did you get out of the 6200?

Massman 24th June 2007 20:19

Nothing, we had to deal with random reboots :(

geoffrey 24th June 2007 21:30

Aiming for the HD2900XT top spot? One tip: concentrate on the VGA core clock, the card doesn't really benefit from faster memory. I'm still collecting data so I can't verify if this is a true fact.

blind_ripper 28th June 2007 22:54

geoff the card loves both :D
my second card came today and holly **** this one looks pretty cool in the way off not so hot .
fan @ 100% 65°C full load 3D :o

geoffrey 28th June 2007 23:07

Atleast verify with some numbers then, mine say the total opposit mind you...

In fact, its know that with DDR4 there wasn't a noticable performance gain over DDR3 and so the card were equiped with the older DDR3 instead of the brand new DDR4.

blind_ripper 28th June 2007 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 147875)
Atleast verify with some numbers then, mine say the total opposit mind you...

In fact, its know that with DDR4 there wasn't a noticable performance gain over DDR3 and so the card were equiped with the older DDR3 instead of the brand new DDR4.

both off mine are asus and same batch , both have GDDR3 ;)
GDDR4 is only for X2900XT 1GB version ;)

geoffrey 28th June 2007 23:16

You didn't really get my point did you ;)


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