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geoffrey 31st December 2008 11:25

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Originally Posted by Massman (Post 228562)
I actually hit 580FSB, on LN2 that is, suicide, but I think I was able to bench at 550 pretty easy.

Did you play with the GTLs? Tried different bioses? Memory issues? Tried lowering MP? More VTT? At what settings do you boot and do you use setfsb?

The Commando is a pretty slow board, because the NB latencies are terribly. You can alter that by doing the PMem modifications: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...highlight=pmem

GTL voltages gave me roughly 0,8V, maybe 0,85V can't remember that exactly. No, didn't play with them as them allow only few extra MHz at best.

No other BIOS tried, latest BIOS is the only one that works properly with the E8600. Gave me a lot of trouble to eventually flash bios 18 (latest) on this board.

Didn't try lower multiplier.

Memory issue's, don't think so, increased memory voltage up to 2,5V where for 500MHz they need less then 2,3V. I know these sticks can go quite high. Latency's 4-4-4-10.

NB latency, I alter the setting in bios where you can choose between DEFAULT, FAST, FASTER. Can't remember how it is called but in memset it has value 12 at default and 11 at fast. TRC?

I boot at 500MHz, sometimes 510MHz, but I have also tried 390MHz and I can go all the way up to 500MHz no problem.

Massman 31st December 2008 12:11

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Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 228574)
GTL voltages gave me roughly 0,8V, maybe 0,85V can't remember that exactly. No, didn't play with them as them allow only few extra MHz at best.

They can give you more than a few MHz, though. On the dfi P35, I managed to get 20+ mhz by tweaking the gtls.

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Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 228574)
No other BIOS tried, latest BIOS is the only one that works properly with the E8600. Gave me a lot of trouble to eventually flash bios 18 (latest) on this board.

Booting problems or bios problems? Earlier biosses will give you a much better 1M frequency (all the other benches will be a bit slower, though).

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Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 228574)
Didn't try lower multiplier.

Maybe your cpu is limiting you? Maybe it's a 10x MP bug (certain E8600 can go very high in FSB on MP9, but suck with MP10.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 228574)
Memory issue's, don't think so, increased memory voltage up to 2,5V where for 500MHz they need less then 2,3V. I know these sticks can go quite high. Latency's 4-4-4-10.

Hm, probably not the cause of the issues; you can always try 5-5-5-15 and see if it has any effect, although I'm pretty sure it won't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 228574)
NB latency, I alter the setting in bios where you can choose between DEFAULT, FAST, FASTER. Can't remember how it is called but in memset it has value 12 at default and 11 at fast. TRC?

the pmem tweaks are register tweaks tha cannot be altered in either the bios or memset: northbridge registers.

Have you tried altering the Performance level?

jmke 3rd January 2009 13:17

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Originally Posted by thorgal (Post 228315)
Ah, yes. Never used that, read about it on OCxtreme. How much difference does it make ?

LOL btw: i7 @ 4.4Ghz full load eats 600W, 4870X2 at idle.

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3469
will it make a difference for 1M times too?

Massman 3rd January 2009 13:24

Very small difference when you're running it under 8s, but yeah, it can make a 0.1s difference

jmke 3rd January 2009 13:47

and if I'm running 73-74 seconds?

Massman 3rd January 2009 14:21

Depending on how well-tweaked your OS is, may be 1-2s

jmke 3rd January 2009 14:58

not enough :(
MSI Wind OC'ing fun;)

Massman 3rd January 2009 15:36

Tune your OS ;)

jmke 4th January 2009 15:26

Thorgal on benching spree, I'm happy with 5 HWboints, he settles for nothing less than 50+ ;)

thorgal 4th January 2009 19:04

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Originally Posted by jmke (Post 228723)
Thorgal on benching spree, I'm happy with 5 HWboints, he settles for nothing less than 50+ ;)

Not finished yet ;)

I'd like to get hand of two things :

- E8600 for pi1M, pifast, 3D01 and Aquamark, maybe even improving 3D03 and 3D05
- 2nd i-ram to get a really decent PCMark score ;)

jmke 4th January 2009 21:03

talk to MM for I-Ram ;)

blind_ripper 8th January 2009 22:22

sorry thorgal looks like u will have to bench again ;) .

thorgal 9th January 2009 06:24

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Originally Posted by blind_ripper (Post 229002)
sorry thorgal looks like u will have to bench again ;) .

LOL, if this brings us past Austria I'll gladly bench again. First some new hardware ;)

blind_ripper 9th January 2009 06:35

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Originally Posted by thorgal (Post 229003)
LOL, if this brings us past Austria I'll gladly bench again. First some new hardware ;)

just what i whase thinking , maybe maart-april till i start benching high-end again :).

Massman 9th January 2009 07:03

We're actually getting really close to Austria, I sure hope I can strap my i7 to the phase-change and hit some higher scores.

Looking forward to your high-end benching Blind :D.

blind_ripper 9th January 2009 07:16

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Originally Posted by Massman (Post 229005)
We're actually getting really close to Austria, I sure hope I can strap my i7 to the phase-change and hit some higher scores.

Looking forward to your high-end benching Blind :D.

yeah im to but hell its hard now :s.
new girl , party monthe :D , payments :D , not mutch work .

need to get new dewar , new container(more) , maybe do bank job any1 wants to join ?

geoffrey 9th January 2009 17:23

Just don't try Fortis bank, not much to be found there ;)

thorgal 11th January 2009 09:34

Thanks to Geoffrey (and myself :p ) we've now passed Austria. Keep going guys :D

Massman 11th January 2009 10:13

Yeah !! :D

thorgal 11th January 2009 19:26

Damn, already lost it again :( For some reason we lost a lot of points today, and they gained some...

I think gtx295 is to blame : many of our top results have been bested.

Massman 11th January 2009 19:33

We lost 20 points, but Team Austria gained like 40 :-/

geoffrey 11th January 2009 23:28

If they go hard, we go harder, simple as that ;)

jmke 12th January 2009 08:52

Windows 7 faster in Wprime, but slower in PiFast, compared to XP, no time yet to test with Vista :)
http://hwbot.org/searchResults.do?di...false&limit=20

Massman 12th January 2009 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 229139)
If they go hard, we go harder, simple as that ;)

Jups.

I'm waiting for the 1366 mounting kit to arrive

blind_ripper 12th January 2009 16:09

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Originally Posted by Massman (Post 229170)
Jups.

I'm waiting for the 1366 mounting kit to arrive

for the mach2 unit ? and from where :p:, also have some great info for u ;).

jmke 12th January 2009 16:11

For Noctua HSF:)

Massman 12th January 2009 16:22

For the Mach .. I still have to 'invent' something :p

jmke 12th January 2009 16:34

maybe you can use LGA1366 kit from Noctua with modification? :D

blind_ripper 12th January 2009 16:42

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Originally Posted by jmke (Post 229187)
maybe you can use LGA1366 kit from Noctua with modification? :D

john massie is not a handy man like me :D !!!!

jmke 12th January 2009 16:46

underestimating people is your biggest weakness ;)

blind_ripper 12th January 2009 17:45

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Originally Posted by jmke (Post 229189)
underestimating people is your biggest weakness ;)

massie is good in other stuff ;). for one he dont have the right tools i think :).
i learned never to underestimate any1 :p

jmke 12th January 2009 17:50

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Originally Posted by blind_ripper (Post 229191)
i learned never to underestimate any1 :p

I beg to differ :naughty:

blind_ripper 12th January 2009 18:15

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Originally Posted by jmke (Post 229192)
I beg to differ :naughty:

read first 2 words john :D

thorgal 12th January 2009 18:25

I made a quick mount for 1366 myself, on top of Jort's modified SS :
(switching to dutch)

- 2 plaatjes multiplex
- klokboor voor evap
- gewone boor voor 4 gaten

op 10min. klaar :)

blind_ripper 12th January 2009 19:41

niet iedereen heeft een klokboor setje liggen e :p , of kan met boormachiene werken.
nuja massman zal wel wat fixxen en anders just ask heb nog wel een mounting liggen der voor.

ah heb binnen kort een draaibank (handmaatig), thuis :D. ma heeft echt zotte dingen gekocht de laaste tijd :D .

thorgal 13th January 2009 09:20

Getting some more gear for more bench fun :D

- DFI DK P45-T2RS Plus
- E8600
- 2x OCZ SSD
- GTX295

and one more goodie which I won't disclose yet :p

Time to do a sale though, costs running a bit too high :rolleyes:

blind_ripper 13th January 2009 12:26

so u got ure self a cascade :D , that would cost new and a good one 1200€ ;).
new Tek-9 5.0 soon the sold, price will be NICE :p.
maybe group buy for keeping cost's down on sending ;).

thorgal 13th January 2009 12:30

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Originally Posted by blind_ripper (Post 229216)
so u got ure self a cascade :D , that would cost new and a good one 1200€ ;).
new Tek-9 5.0 soon the sold, price will be NICE :p.
maybe group buy for keeping cost's down on sending ;).

nono, no cascade, I'm not that rich :p

blind_ripper 13th January 2009 12:36

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Originally Posted by thorgal (Post 229217)
nono, no cascade, I'm not that rich :p

tell tell :p ;)

LN2 :D

Gamer 18th January 2009 17:26

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=707723

this isn't an 8800m GTX is it ?


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