Infineon admits to DRAM price fixing

jmke · 16th September 2004, 10:27

German chip maker Infineon has admitted to fixing prices on RAM and will pay a US$160 million fine. The Department of Justice had accused Infineon (and other, unnamed conspirators) of conspiring with other as-of-yet unnamed companies to "suppress and eliminate competition" by setting the price of RAM sold to manufacturers such as Apple, HP, Dell, Compaq, Gateway, and IBM. The price fixing occurred between July 1999 and June 2002, according to the complaint

http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040915-4189.html

Sidney · 16th September 2004, 16:13

The damn price fixings made OEM PC much cheaper than any enthusiasts could ever pay for. I am sure Micron; Samsung; Hynnis; Mosel are thinking ..... hummmm why not lowering the prices to the enthusiasts rather than to OEM.

The same thought went to ATI and Nvdia; that will be very nice.

16th September 2004, 16:58

I don't see the bad thing about that. The Petroleum Organization does the same thing, everybody does it. That's how liberalism works...

I see no point to suddenly scream for this...

Sidney · 16th September 2004, 17:13

In that case, I trust you are not for anti-trust laws.

16th September 2004, 19:35

I don't like monopolies, etc. By I don't like hypocrism either...

Or everyone goes down, or nobody goes down, I'm tired of these politics who decide who gets blamed and who doesn't.

Everyone is equal for the rules and laws... MS abuses from his monopoly, and they disserved paying... The industry of music and movies, etc. is always screaming about pirates and their author rights, etc. But they are abusing us, consumers, as we have to pay more and more taxes so these *ssh*l*s get the money they want to have... I think it's time some worldrevolution breaks out, that the industry and the whole world understands money ISN'T an excuse to give up freedom and rights from people. We disserve our liberty, why should I pay taxes for stuff which is MY property? Why does some administration have the power to depossess me from my goods with some lame excuse? As long as I don't threaten directly somebody's physical or mental integrity, I should be left alone. Btw, why should young people pay such high car insurances? When you're young, you don't have so much money... If you create an accident and you're young, OK, then you should pay more to the insurance, but where is the 'non-guilty till proven'? We are obliged legally to have insurances, but we need to pay a fortune for riding with OUR car... OUR property, and we need to pay to have it, to use it, even to keep it.

I'm against everything which touches to the economy or politics in this world. Cos these both things are strangled one into the other and are corrupt and corrupting everybody.

PS: sorry for this debate, you may edit or delete it if you find it inappropriate.
PS2: sorry if some sentences may seem to be non-sense or uncomprehensible, english ain't my native language.

16th September 2004, 21:25

i actually completely agree with u

16th September 2004, 21:28

Thank you. I was wondering if I wasn't going too far. But it seems alright

jmke · 16th September 2004, 21:32

get your parents to ensure a car, worked out great for me

easypanic · 16th September 2004, 21:37

yup, being under 25 sucks

.

(That being very offtopic

.)

16th September 2004, 22:13

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
get your parents to ensure a car, worked out great for me

I know, but it's still sad we need to do that to be a (semi-)legal driver...

It's true I got very offtopic, therefore, I apologize

But my translation was very smooth and hardly noticeable, not?

16th September 2004, 10:27	#1
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,013	Infineon admits to DRAM price fixing German chip maker Infineon has admitted to fixing prices on RAM and will pay a US$160 million fine. The Department of Justice had accused Infineon (and other, unnamed conspirators) of conspiring with other as-of-yet unnamed companies to "suppress and eliminate competition" by setting the price of RAM sold to manufacturers such as Apple, HP, Dell, Compaq, Gateway, and IBM. The price fixing occurred between July 1999 and June 2002, according to the complaint http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040915-4189.html __________________

16th September 2004, 16:13	#2
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	The damn price fixings made OEM PC much cheaper than any enthusiasts could ever pay for. I am sure Micron; Samsung; Hynnis; Mosel are thinking ..... hummmm why not lowering the prices to the enthusiasts rather than to OEM. The same thought went to ATI and Nvdia; that will be very nice. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

16th September 2004, 17:13	#4
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	In that case, I trust you are not for anti-trust laws. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

16th September 2004, 21:32	#8
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,013	get your parents to ensure a car, worked out great for me __________________

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16th September 2004, 16:58	#3
Xploited Titan Posts: n/a	I don't see the bad thing about that. The Petroleum Organization does the same thing, everybody does it. That's how liberalism works... I see no point to suddenly scream for this...

16th September 2004, 19:35	#5
Xploited Titan Posts: n/a	I don't like monopolies, etc. By I don't like hypocrism either... Or everyone goes down, or nobody goes down, I'm tired of these politics who decide who gets blamed and who doesn't. Everyone is equal for the rules and laws... MS abuses from his monopoly, and they disserved paying... The industry of music and movies, etc. is always screaming about pirates and their author rights, etc. But they are abusing us, consumers, as we have to pay more and more taxes so these sshl*s get the money they want to have... I think it's time some worldrevolution breaks out, that the industry and the whole world understands money ISN'T an excuse to give up freedom and rights from people. We disserve our liberty, why should I pay taxes for stuff which is MY property? Why does some administration have the power to depossess me from my goods with some lame excuse? As long as I don't threaten directly somebody's physical or mental integrity, I should be left alone. Btw, why should young people pay such high car insurances? When you're young, you don't have so much money... If you create an accident and you're young, OK, then you should pay more to the insurance, but where is the 'non-guilty till proven'? We are obliged legally to have insurances, but we need to pay a fortune for riding with OUR car... OUR property, and we need to pay to have it, to use it, even to keep it. I'm against everything which touches to the economy or politics in this world. Cos these both things are strangled one into the other and are corrupt and corrupting everybody. PS: sorry for this debate, you may edit or delete it if you find it inappropriate. PS2: sorry if some sentences may seem to be non-sense or uncomprehensible, english ain't my native language.

16th September 2004, 21:25	#6
jakkerd Posts: n/a	i actually completely agree with u

16th September 2004, 21:28	#7
Xploited Titan Posts: n/a	Thank you. I was wondering if I wasn't going too far. But it seems alright

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