P4 Thermal Throttling causing damage?

jmke · 25th October 2005, 15:48

If you run your P4 with Thermal Throttling active for long periods of time (your P4 is running too hot and it throttles the CPU speed to keep cooler) can it cause permanent damage to the core?

Sidney · 25th October 2005, 15:55

My fuzzy logic tells me, yes

jmke · 25th October 2005, 16:08

any links to prove your fuzzy logic?

Sidney · 25th October 2005, 16:13

All A is B,
Some B is C,
Therefore, some C is A.

Logic 101, no linkie

jmke · 25th October 2005, 16:15

OMG; okay, nice, but how does it prove that damage can be had from throttling?

Sidney · 25th October 2005, 16:34

All throttling is heat (given condition)
Some damage is heat (established)
Therefore, some throttling is damage.

25th October 2005, 22:38

high heat does reduce the lifespan of CPU and components.
Since throttling happens staring at about 75°C I think, that means high heat...

fuzzy logic is right indeed.

jmke · 25th October 2005, 22:40

are there no articles or online documentation which supports these claims?

75°C is not "too high" FYI

Sidney · 26th October 2005, 00:30

When the processor is subjected to throttling continuously from high temperature, the likelihood of damaging the processor is very probable.

A bullet proof vest will stop one, two, three bullets not hitting on the same spot and sparing your life; continously getting hit on different spot will kill you eventually. That is for sure.

If there are no articles, reports, claims as such could be -

1) Novice users did not even know why their Prescott die; let alone reporting the death.
2) Experienced users will have taken care of the throttling; and not continue using the system because he doesn't benefit from a slower and irratic response system.
3) Geeks will never say something like this unless the purpose of the dead processor is an attentional act.

Rather, the no article on the occurance that we know; doesn't preclude the nonextendence of the result. Unless, we disagree the fact that heat will and can damage processor.

jmke · 26th October 2005, 00:34

I agree if the CPU overheats, but the P4 starts throttling 15° before it reaches "dangerous" temperatures;

running at 75°C vs 40°C will not be noticable in the long run (CPU will live longer than you, most likely, other components failing before that.. also most likely)

25th October 2005, 15:48	#1
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	P4 Thermal Throttling causing damage? If you run your P4 with Thermal Throttling active for long periods of time (your P4 is running too hot and it throttles the CPU speed to keep cooler) can it cause permanent damage to the core? __________________

25th October 2005, 15:55	#2
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	My fuzzy logic tells me, yes __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

25th October 2005, 16:08	#3
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	any links to prove your fuzzy logic? __________________

25th October 2005, 16:13	#4
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	All A is B, Some B is C, Therefore, some C is A. Logic 101, no linkie __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

25th October 2005, 16:15	#5
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	OMG; okay, nice, but how does it prove that damage can be had from throttling? __________________

25th October 2005, 16:34	#6
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	All throttling is heat (given condition) Some damage is heat (established) Therefore, some throttling is damage. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

25th October 2005, 22:38	#7
FreeStyler Posts: n/a	high heat does reduce the lifespan of CPU and components. Since throttling happens staring at about 75°C I think, that means high heat... fuzzy logic is right indeed.

25th October 2005, 22:40	#8
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	are there no articles or online documentation which supports these claims? 75°C is not "too high" FYI __________________

26th October 2005, 00:30	#9
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	When the processor is subjected to throttling continuously from high temperature, the likelihood of damaging the processor is very probable. A bullet proof vest will stop one, two, three bullets not hitting on the same spot and sparing your life; continously getting hit on different spot will kill you eventually. That is for sure. If there are no articles, reports, claims as such could be - 1) Novice users did not even know why their Prescott die; let alone reporting the death. 2) Experienced users will have taken care of the throttling; and not continue using the system because he doesn't benefit from a slower and irratic response system. 3) Geeks will never say something like this unless the purpose of the dead processor is an attentional act. Rather, the no article on the occurance that we know; doesn't preclude the nonextendence of the result. Unless, we disagree the fact that heat will and can damage processor. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

26th October 2005, 00:34	#10
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	I agree if the CPU overheats, but the P4 starts throttling 15° before it reaches "dangerous" temperatures; running at 75°C vs 40°C will not be noticable in the long run (CPU will live longer than you, most likely, other components failing before that.. also most likely) __________________

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