Flash your Hercules 9800 to a 9800 Pro!
 

Insider shows us how he upgraded his Hercules 9800 to a 9800 Pro using a simple dos program! ;)


http://www.madshrimps.be/gotohowto.php?howtoID=40

Err... why?!

Does he think a cold boot will wipe out the newly flashed ROM?

normally that shouldn't be the case, will have to get back to you on that. 3D Rage boards user may have had issues after flashing their card & then pushing the reset button.

does this work with saphire 9800's as well? all the boards and the chips are basicly the same just the name and junk that comes with it is the main differences.

actually, if you look at the original discussion on which insider based this howto you will see that the person used a Sapphire 9800 card
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33695811
so that should work fine if the memory can handle the higher default speeds

Hi all,
I hope someone can help me, i want to know if it is possible to flash the bios from 9700 pro to 9800 pro?
thanks!

i don't think so because they haven another pcb

greetz

Humm..., sounds nice.. but does this apply to the 9800SE edition also ? just wondering that is....


B/

Nope, only for the None Pro version

the 9800SE is even slower than a 9800np

greetz

will this bios update work for ATI OEM cards??

so far Sapphire and Hercules have been confirmed to be working with this Flash.. no others though.. only if the PCB layout of the card is exactly the same, you might have a chance of it working.

i think yes because shaphire uses the same pcb as BBA cards

greezt

Question: Are there any advantages to doing this vs just overcloking to Pro-frequencies "normally"? Ie. as a person with not a whole lot of extra money at the moment, do I have any reason to risk flashing over just overcloking the good old way?

Also, I've had trouble finding any discussions on whether or not this flash works how often. I've not found a single report on it not working, but have not had much success finding success reports either. Anyone care to give a link where I could enlighten myself or tell me something I don't know about the matter?

Thanks in Advance,

--Rams

What really are the changements it involves ?

Does it imply an increase of heating of the card ?
Is the fan enough to contain the heat increase ?
Would it reduce the life of the card ?

What are the real dangers to put a 9800np to 9800p ?

Is it the same as a simple O/C ?

Will this work with a non-hercule video card ? Because mine and hercule's have perhaps the same schema and components (Club3D).

Could this be harmless then ?

if your club3d has the same pcb as the hercules or shaphire or 9800pro it ( with offcourse the right memchips ) will flash,

and when you flash your card the memchips and core will get more voltage and so you will oc even higher

normally the cooling of an 9800np and a pro are the same so don't worry about that

and when your flash failes, re-flash it as said in the guide

greetz

some answers to the questions asked thanks to Short-Media
more info : http://www.short-media.com/forum/sho...&threadid=3327

ok, thank you guys. I'll take a look at the PCB inscriptions and try that...

I sure hope it'll be possible to flash your hercules 9800 pro to the XT :)
ontopic
Euh no it isn't it activates the 4 missing pipelines in your 3D card. And alters the cores a bit I guess.

actually all it 'supposedly' does is increase the voltage supplied to the ram/gpu enabling higher overclocks.
though what i want to know is if anyone has managed to get an overclock simmilar to that possible with a good 9800 pro...
then this will own for the serious OC'ers out there (me included).

oh and dont worry about the temps if you get the hercules 9800np becasue the cooling is exactly the same.

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obviously the ram clocks would end up being slightly slower but im sure if youre lucky you could hit 460-470 mhz core as long as you were determined and knew what you were doing.

it it failed in my case i would stick my zalmazma-80hp heatpipe on there.

I got my Hercules 9800NP today and I flashed it after running some benchmarks.
Flash is succesful, but now I can't set the refreshrate any higher than 75hz. Not even on 640x480.

With my old card (9500PRO) I did 1280x1024@85 hz.
Now it's 75hz and it gives me a headache...

Is there anything I can do about it?

I even tried to flash my card to normal state, and still 75hz max.
Then I dl-ed hercules 3.7 catalyst drivers in stead of omega 3.8 and now it's fixed!

would fine it strange for the refresh rate to change of the chip, since those specs are baked into the vidcard :)

glad to see you were able to solve it & thanks for sharing the solution with us, appreciate it! :super:

my shaphire 9800np has infineon chips :(

but it gets recognized as an 9800pro

greetz

and going even a little further:

9800 flashed @ 9800 PRO is flashed to 9800 XT :mad:

some people @ XtremeSystems had negative experiences when flashing their 9800 to an XT

everything good here

just had to set "agp aperture size" in BIOS to 256 :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=21865

not flawless here

all the troubles for a little gain in output

get a life if 9600 was modded to 9800 than that

would be real news

all that trouble

to type

3 lines, and still

not add any valuable info.

:)

little update:

I flashed it again with a new bios, from a Hercules card, which can be found over here


This solves the problem that I had little artifacts on my icons in windows, dunno how that came.

little question...
is any of these cards still available? if so, where? (I prefer a belgian/dutch/german shop :D )

thx :D

If I was you, I would buy a R9800Pro for € 299.
check Funcomputer.de or K&M elektronic for details.

how come its so cheap?
did the 9800 (non pro) got more expensive... or did the pro got cheaper?

pro got cheaper, & no price change for the non pro