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jmke 18th October 2004 13:52

AMD Athlon FX overclocking to 3Ghz: Creating a 'Gamebeast'
 
This setup has all the bragging rights available, but is it actually worth its extreme price? Does buying an 800 euro cooling for your CPU improve your gaming experience? Do we need a 3Ghz FX? Find out in this overclocking extravaganza!

http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=231

jort 18th October 2004 14:14

:mad:
whats the score @ superpi ;p

JNav89GT 18th October 2004 15:23

one gaming benchmarks results are flipped with stock FX whipping the oc'd one. Yet states 16% increase. I think the numbers got transposed.

Otherwise good read.

Not sure if you did this. But did you oc the vid card at all? That would better highlight performance potential.

BTW I'm envy. I've had 2 FX53's 939 and neither would do 3ghz
:(, I'm on #3 now. Got it from Oppainter so this one should be ok, I think probably 3050-3100 when my Prommy's get back from modding :)

The Senile Doctor 18th October 2004 16:01

I plan to do a rerun in the near future with an overclocked vidcard with the peltier.

Sidney 18th October 2004 16:03

Quote:

The high-end GPU-market is NOT ready for a 3Ghz Athlon FX.
Does this apply to P4 @ 4GHz? Just to know your "educated" guess.;)

JNav89GT 18th October 2004 16:08

IMO the FX will be alot more GPU bound than the P4. The FX will push better framerates than that 4Ghz P4, but is held back alot as well due to GPU's not keeping up. At least in the overclocked setting.

I think once Calantak gets a good board that he can scale the HTT bus on he will see ALOT better results as well.

Sidney 18th October 2004 16:17

Quote:

3GHz OC’d AthlonFX:
While trying to create the ultimate gaming PC, those crazy crustaceans overclocked an FX-53 to 3GHz. As one might imagine, it took the cooling power of a VapoChill to pull off the FX-53 OC. Was it all worth it? Find out:
[H];)

NoGodForMe 18th October 2004 16:50

Great Article.

Looks like the GPU is the limiting factor.

I have a very similar system with a Koolance.

I haven't got to OCing yet, just done the 3dMark benchmarks at stock. The positive to the Koolance, is that the system runs quiet. I'm hoping for 2.6 once I OC.

Eventually I get to OCing, but I'm still trying to get SP2 to work with my tape drive. NovaBack just gave me more ideas, so it's time for another format.

http://www.nogodforme.com/MyBabyTera.htm

agent #2 18th October 2004 16:56

Nice overclock. Good article. :o

jmke 18th October 2004 16:58

Quote:

Originally posted by JNav89GT
one gaming benchmarks results are flipped with stock FX whipping the oc'd one. Yet states 16% increase. I think the numbers got transposed.

ah :( . must have mis-made that one, darnit! will fix it first thing in the morning tommorow; don't have the source file here @ home;)

Sidney 18th October 2004 17:58

calantak,
Nice that you finally share with us your secret. took you awhile.;)

jmke 18th October 2004 18:05

if only he had to time; he'd beat Macci & Oppainter ;)

Sidney 18th October 2004 19:11

May be he doesn't want the world to know the 11.19 Volt reading. He took quite a few pain killing pills to get that over.;)

Gamer 18th October 2004 20:17

nice article Calantak, your first ? :)

bubbles 19th October 2004 01:37

just waiting for the right chipset
 
I read the article and as soon as i saw the one 1280 graph i was thinking it's bandwidth locked, it seems like the cpu and gpu race is like a yo-yo as soon as one is locked by the other something comes along and bounces it back the other way.

Like in this case the paper launch is days a way, so you seemly have to run this test again with a the new nvidia dual pci-e card board :) hey if you going to spend 800 on cooling you may as well waste it on two 6800's :) 150% increase in gpu power should cover the 15 - 20 percent cpu increase.

JNav89GT 19th October 2004 03:20

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
if only he had to time; he'd beat Macci & Oppainter ;)
lol
those guys have unlimited $ and time to devote to benching it seems. Not to throw a wet towel on anyone's parade, but I remember when I had the #1 benchmark score in 3dmark2000. That was when GTS Geforce first came out and before volt modding and super cooling gpu's was needed to reach first page. Now it's all about throwing tons of $$$ into benches and of course the talent to tweak tweak tweak your way to the top.

Bosw8er 19th October 2004 07:47

Quote:

Originally posted by JNav89GT
That was when GTS Geforce first came out and before volt modding and super cooling gpu's was needed to reach first page.
hehe, had a first page score too then, with a KT133A-board and a GeForce 2 GTS ... using a household ventilator blowing on an open case

jmke 19th October 2004 08:29

I got top score with GF1 DDR, 4400 with KT266A board:)
lasted only a few weeks

ec8or 20th October 2004 07:53

nice nice nice!! :niceone:

but why not benched with 3DMark 05? or am i missing sthg?

easypanic 20th October 2004 08:03

It isn't all about benchies ;).

...."avid gamer"...

jmke 20th October 2004 08:08

Quote:

Originally posted by ec8or
but why not benched with 3DMark 05? or am i missing sthg?
wasn't released yet at time of doing the article:)

ec8or 20th October 2004 08:20

ok ;)

The Senile Doctor 21st October 2004 07:48

3dmark05 gives similar things as 04 does, i think.

ec8or 22nd October 2004 12:30

1. guess you mean 03 instead of 04 ;)

2. I have ca. 13*** points in 03 vs. ca. 6*** points in 05 (no oc'ing - 3800+ & 6800U)

3. I 'heard' that the 05 is a more overall benchmark again where as 03 was more directed on GFX results only...

cheers

jmke 22nd October 2004 12:53

increasing CPU speed in 05 helps very little afaik

ec8or 22nd October 2004 15:00

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
increasing CPU speed in 05 helps very little afaik
might be - didnt have the time yet to test it out myself.. this is only what i 'heard' going around as a rumour.. but then again , rumours are like housewife stories - to be enjoyed with a 'korreltje zout' ;)

jmke 22nd October 2004 15:13

+ 600ghz = +200 ... wooo... not.


NoGodForMe 26th October 2004 16:39

I agree with the above.
I finally OCed my rig.
FX53, 1 gig Corsair PC3200XLPro (2336), BFG UltraOC Waterblock, Koolance Exos Al.
Cpu @ 2.4 stock, BFG @ 450/1100 = 4611
Cpu @ 2.6 multiplier at 13 (13x200), BFG @ 450/1100 = 4655
Not much of a jump if you ask me. 3dMark05 seems to be GPU intensive.
I may try booting with the multiplier at 14 just to see if it works, but then I'll leave it at 2.6 and be happy. I'll let you know.

The Senile Doctor 26th October 2004 16:51

that's a fx55 you got there then, should last you till the dual cores hit in mid05.
nuttin' is gonna get any faster then this until half05

kristos 26th October 2004 19:48

I think he has an fx-53 like he says, just overclocked it to 2600 mhz multiplier wise :)

jmke 26th October 2004 19:52

Calantak means, that by OC'ing, he will end up with speed of FX55 ...

NoGodForMe 27th October 2004 13:41

I set the multiplier to 13.5 (2700) with the voltage at the default, and the system hung and then I couldn't get it back. Boy, this was a bummer. I had to reset the Cmos which involved removing my video and sound card, the battery, then the jumper for 5 seconds. After that, I used Clockgen. I was using the version for the K8V because I didn't see one for the A8V. It wouldn't let me set the voltage above 1.55, so I set the voltage in the bios, and then made a bunch of ghost files to set the multiplier.

2700 @ 1.7v, BFG @ 450/1100 = 4600

Weird, that's less than the score running at 2600. I've never figured out why this happens, but it does.

In the morning I woke up and took it to the top, the voices in my head kept saying, "Do it, Do it."

2800 @ 1.8v BFG @ 450/1100 = System Shutdown on the 2nd to last test (slow boat). I waited a minute and rebooted, it came back to life, "wheeeeew."

2800 @ 1.725v or 1.750v = Crash in 1st test, even with relaxed memory timings of 3448.

I think the 3.0 record score is safe. I came close to 2800, but no cigar.

If you want to see the CPUz screens, go to my web site and scroll to the bottom.
http://www.nogodforme.com/MyBabyTera.htm

kristos 27th October 2004 18:14

3.0 record?

NoGodForMe 27th October 2004 18:44

Yeah, yeah, you're right. This is probably the record.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=42687
Still, 3.0 in a case is a nice score. It just stands out more because it's something most OCers could do if they had the money. Whereas the WR score is done on a test bench and they guy did some extreme mods most would not do.

I have one more thing I can try tonight, and that's 2T timings. I had it disabled thru all those tests.

kristos 27th October 2004 21:06

performance will go down horribly and your oc may not be all that much more

easypanic 27th October 2004 21:59

Yup, don't try the 2T thingie ;).

easypanic 27th October 2004 22:00

And what is wrong with xtremesystems?

I keep getting the main page of the forum??

jmke 27th October 2004 22:02

take a closer look at his link, it's br0ke

kristos 28th October 2004 00:00


:wow:

wow I thought 3.6 gig was the highest fx oc atm, guess I was wrong :)

jmke 28th October 2004 00:06

imagine that running 24/7; Intel and AMD can keep their dualcores :)


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