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jmke 24th January 2006 12:53

AMD Athlon 64 Stock Heatsink with 4 Heat Pipes Tested
 
When it comes free of charge, it may not be bad or an underperformer. The new and improved heatsink from AMD retail pack 165 Opteron comes with 4 heat pipes, topped with 80 x 20mm delta fan with built in temp sensor that will reach 5,200 rpm when it is called for the tough job(s), yet runs quietly during light duty even at 800Mhz overclocked speed.

http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=399

Rutar 24th January 2006 15:47

As good as XP-90, BUT what happens if you mount a real fan? Or what if you mount a real 80mm fan on the stock one?

I think that the 80mm used on the stock heatsink is thinner than the normal 25mm fans, resulting in less air pressure. I would also like to see that 92mm in 80mm frame from silverstone on it.

Sidney 24th January 2006 16:01

1) that is a fan as real as any fan.
2) 20mm is smaller or thinner than 25mm.
3) Air pressure is not soley govened by fan thickness
4) There is no point in mounting a 92mm fan on a Stock Cooler that is designed for 80mm mounting.

Rutar 24th January 2006 18:05

Few people mount an 80mm fan on the XP-90, most use a 92mm fan with the benefits that come with those.

jmke 24th January 2006 18:13

Rutar valid point about having a COMPLETE test of ALL aspect, XP-90 can fit 92mm and might possible offer better performance/noise ratio. However the title of this article is not Thermalright XP-90 review ;) the focus is on the stock cooling which is on par/better than XP-90 when both are used with same fan.

btw check PM please:)

Sidney 24th January 2006 18:21



http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=3 93

Trust me, there are enough people out there using XP-90 + 92mm fan on their X2 rigs ;)

Rutar 24th January 2006 18:26

only 2° but

92mm at 2800 (if I read that right) or 80mm at 5200


I guess we'll get an old stock vs new stock cooler review soon tough :)

jmke 24th January 2006 18:28

:-)

goingpostale1 24th January 2006 19:57

Does anyone know where one of these can be bought (cheap)? I'm looking to see the kind of performance one of these will have with a Panaflo H1A :O I already checked Ebay :/

Sidney 24th January 2006 20:03

You will have a wait a bit longer; most people will ditch the stock unit; Free of Charge can't be good. :D

If you are using DFI nF4 board with two temp sensor adjustment via SmartGuardian (the 3rd is used by the chipset); you could set the fan never to exceed 2,500 RPM by raising the full speed temp to max.

High rpm = high noise; before you make any decision, try the FREE fan first, why short change yourself ;)

goingpostale1 24th January 2006 20:15

Suppose I could just ask AMD to sell me one Directly?

Sidney 24th January 2006 20:35

The twin heatpipe AMD cooler

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...cooling&page=8

Rutar 24th January 2006 20:51

The question is, if you overclock why not get a Freezer 64 PRO? cheap as well

jort 24th January 2006 21:12

this one is WITH the cpu:)

jmke 24th January 2006 21:17

does not come cheaper then FREE :)

Sidney 24th January 2006 21:44

Quote:

The question is, if you overclock why not get a Freezer 64 PRO? cheap as well
P4 2A @3.2GHz 1.6vcore Intel Stock HSF + Chill Vent II :^D

goingpostale1 24th January 2006 23:02

The Freezer series is quiet, but not very silent. I'm interested in something I can silence cheaply. Worst comes to worst ill pick up a Scythe Ninja, Vapochill, High Riser or something that cen be cooled silently.

Rutar 25th January 2006 00:41

well, I adjusted the speed with the motherboard and the trick is to use very low values to actually slow it down

1000 RPM makes it even pass SPCR certification :)

Sidney 25th January 2006 16:27

First one on eBay :)



http://cgi.ebay.com/oem-AMD-Socket-9...QQcmdZViewItem

jmke 25th January 2006 16:36

Sorry. No international bidders. No exceptions.

Sidney 25th January 2006 16:39

I'll be tracking it for the fun.

goingpostale1 25th January 2006 16:42

OH YEAH!

kr15t0f 25th January 2006 17:49

you have no XP-120 to compare with that stock cooling, got a xp-120 myself but I find it a bit to big, offcourse it cools great and it is silent but if the stock cooling works allmost as good as the xp-120 I'll try to get one (cheap or free :D )

Rutar 25th January 2006 17:58

that is not a good idea


The XP-120 is light and it's close to the motherboard, so the pressure it has on the mounting isn't too bad. It's big but so what?


You will be seriously dissapointed even at stock speeds regarding the noise level and even more when you overclock because the stock 80mm just has nothing on a decent 120mm fan.

Jaco 25th January 2006 18:52

quick question :

can I remove the TIM on the copper base with aceton?
(isopropyl alcohol is prolly better but i only have aceton atm)

Jaco 25th January 2006 19:21

nevermind , the dang TIM is gone.

acetone is great :D

Sidney 25th January 2006 19:30

Acetone is also very abrasive; you may still want to make sure no residue left on the copper surface.

Rutar 25th January 2006 20:43

I like the arctic silver 2 step cleaning stuff for such tasks, it's very effective.

Jaco 25th January 2006 21:01

This cooler is great :ws:

The fan is only running 2700 rpm (silent) , keeps my 3800+ Venice at 42°C full load. (oh yeah , cpu is overclocked to 2808Mhz @ 1,52 vcore ;) )

+ very easy installation. (I always have trouble installing my Thermalright XP-90)

Lazyman : After the acetone treatment , I cleaned the copper base with paper napkins and let it 'dry' for an hour.

Sidney 25th January 2006 22:17

Darn, excellent overclock!! :)

jmke 27th January 2006 18:14

Quote:

Well after reading this thread and the review, I was intrigued. Since people pointed out the guy didnt use a 92mm fan with the panaflo, I decided to benchmark it myself. I happen to have the same opty 165 cooler. I actually bought the retail box then sold the cpu but kept the heatsink.

So I decided to take some time and uninstall my xp-90 w/ 2500rpm 92mm panaflo and install the brand new stock opty heatsink. I run an opteron 144 CACJE oc'd to 2.6ghz w/ 1.425 volts. Similar to what the reviewer on the site had.

Well I have to say, I am definitely amazed.......

Temps with XP-90 w/ 92mm panaflo at 2500rpm(which is fairly loud with that high of cfm):

34C idle
42C load

Temps with the stock 165 copper heatpipe heatsink:

33C idle
41C load



My temps dropped by 1C for both idle and load with the stock heatsink! I was blown away that a stock cooler I got for FREE, performed pretty much the same, even slightly better than a cooler I paid $35 for? Wow....im not sure what to say. I definitely wasnt expecting it to perform that well. I am actually debating selling my xp-90 right now since the fan on the stock cooler is actually quieter than my 92mm fan for my xp-90.

Hope that was helpful
from: http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...nterth read=y

Sidney 27th January 2006 18:56

glad to hear :)

Look closer to the fin design + the quad-heatpipe = good design = good performance

The fan, most people complain about before using it = "***-U-ME" :)

High speed fan can go lower; low speed high can't go higher.:D

Sidney 27th January 2006 19:03

The 2x40mm fans are blowing towards the PWM heatsinks; they can be mounted below or above the plastic bracket, preference of the user.

Blowing works better than sucking unless the PWMIC is mounted like in the DFI Expert board.

On the subject about larger fans with large dead spot relative to its non-importance when heatpipe is implemented.

I'd rather hit my clay bird (trap shooting) as soon as it gets out rather than waiting for it to "fall" down range. :D And, I have three 100 perfect hit scores last year.:)

Sidney 28th January 2006 17:54

Got two from eBay for $5 a piece, though they charged $7.5 for shipping (priority mail received in less than 3 days). The retail packs are from X2 4600+.

I figure an 80mm delta fan would cost $10. I will use it for the Venice system and give one to my nephew who has a SD 3700+.


kennyb 29th January 2006 18:02

I just got an Athlon 4400 and was surprised by the mammoth heatsink that it came with. Sure looks exactly like this review one. So far running pretty cool, idling around 32C with the case closed. Ill do load tests later.

Sidney 29th January 2006 21:54

Quote:

I just got an Athlon 4400 and was surprised by the mammoth heatsink that it came with. Sure looks exactly like this review one. So far running pretty cool, idling around 32C with the case closed. Ill do load tests later.
Please come back and share your experience on the stock cooler in terms of temp and noise level with us. :)

kennyb 30th January 2006 04:41

I wont have a chance to overclock for a couple of weeks. But im only shooting for a 10 percent oc to 2.4GHz. Should be double with that monster heatsink. Whats a maximum allowable temp for the x2's? I've read 1.4V on the core should be more than enough to get me to 2.4GHz.

kennyb 30th January 2006 04:42

Quote:

Originally posted by kennyb
I wont have a chance to overclock for a couple of weeks. But im only shooting for a 10 percent oc to 2.4GHz. Should be double with that monster heatsink. Whats a maximum allowable temp for the x2's? I've read 1.4V on the core should be more than enough to get me to 2.4GHz.
Doable... wth... couldnt edit my own post.

Sidney 30th January 2006 07:34

A reader emailed me and asked for the 2x40 mm fans I used in the review.



http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=329

http://overclockers.com/articles1255/

Sidney 31st January 2006 01:03

SD 3700+ @2.8Ghz 256HTT x 11, 1.475 vcore (Bios)

Room Temp = 21°C
Load temp = 53°C with quad-pipe and AMD stock TIM


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