the doc has morphine-dipped darts protecting his house;)

Protecting as in actively watching the house? :p

tripwire:)
working on nice HD 5800 newspost with first benches:)

A bit dissapointed, I expected more domination, as the marketing guys claimed BIG improvements even with current games. Okay drivers need to mature, but the 5870 at the moment is NOT as good as it was advertised (a GTX 295 smasher). I hope the 5850 can live up to the hype they created...

I really hope for ATI them DX11 games are worth it...

i think the same way leeghoofd.
it will be funny to see the kid's cry when they find out that it only get's the GTX295 in with 3/10 of some game's.

Well the only DX11 game ( battleforge ) shows big speed increase going from DX10.1 to 11... so hopefully all new games will run way faster with higher detail then the current generation... wait till the drivers settle to get these...

/anandtech

is that battleforge related ?

that is related to the Battleforge benchies of course, would not quote it otherwise;)

Well, I admit I am referring to the driver problems pre-AMD acquisition of ATI, but many games were known to crash, or get corrupted on ATI cards.

Quality of the games became with time less pleasant to the eye as well (filters not working completely like the nVidia ones, giving sometimes weird artifacts or felt weird/uncomfortable).

I guess the latest games will be the least troubled ones (F.E.A.R. 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Age of Empires III, Half Life 2 and 1, Red Faction Guerilla).

But my MMORPGs will probably suffer alot. I play atm following MMORPGs: Anarchy Online, Atlantica Online, Steam Online and might have missed one...

Like I said, good h/w is nice, but if the s/w fails, the h/w fails. But as my whole home is nVidia only, I can't see with my own eyes if AMD has gotten the Catalyst drivers to the Forceware levels (or better).

Well, AMD helped push monthly ATI driver updates, constantly fixing bugs reported;
don't see why it would be problematic with MMORPGs in particular...


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i think u are more the Nvidia fan :).

Can't say I experienced any of those problems with my ATI card... that said, AMD's monthly driver updates put more emphasis on getting something out the door than actually making the update useful. Frequently beta drivers would be developed alongside the monthly drivers to fix game specific problems, but not introduced into the main ATI drivers until two or occasionally three releases later because the codebase had forked and required additional testing before being reintegrated.

Neither company is perfect, NVIDIA still occasionally has that shimmering sand/pixel effect in games... and they still have trouble with Company of Heroes... For a game that is "The way it's meant to be played" on NVIDIA hardware, I have never seen so many problems that took so long to be fixed, and some still aren't fixed at all. Very aggrevating as the original game has been on the market for three years.