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187(V)URD@ 24th January 2005 20:43

Upgrade
 
I am beginning to follow hardware again because I wanna try a new setup :).

My main upgrade was a Graca

- X850XT PCI-E @ 433€
- X850Pro vivo @ ... maybe 380-400€ ?

But since it is just out in .de I need to wait for the prices and let see if the Vivo can be flashed into a XT.

My other upgrades are CPU - Mainboard.

CPU

- AMD 64 3000+/3200+/3500+ (for oc'ing)

Mobo

- Waiting for nforce4 and good oc board without voltage mods, dunno what brand.


What I already have.

Eheim 1048, kingston 2*256BH5 , Corsair 2*256 BH6 , DDR booster.

little upgrades :

-New CPU waterblock
-New NB block
-New graca block
- +extra silent/small pump for NB+graca.

Where i am doubting on :

- sell all my ram and buy 2*512MB gskill.


Lets hope i got enough money from weekendjob and my current hardware to buy this setup :D

Any suggestions or info about a mobo is always welcome?

kristos 24th January 2005 23:24

cpu: right now, I'd say 3000+ they oc about as good as the 3500+ anyway
but on the other hand, you could wait untill the E0 revisions are out and see how those perform (they should be much better but wait and see in my humble opinion)

mobo: dfi lp ut nf4 ultra (can be modded into full sli with great ease)

2*512 G.Skill --> pc4400 1GBLE (best choice for a 1 Gig set according to Onepagebook himself ;))

*edit* maybe considder some buying some good BH-5? From what I hear, 2*512 BH-5 / BH-6 clocks quite good on A64, I've seen several people doing 250 mhz with theirs.
or some memory with winbond UTT chips (with brainpower pcb? I haven't been following this so I don't know if they perform better with a brainpower pcb or not...). Macci claims nothing can beat BH-*/UTT at ~260mhz properly tweaked.

on the dfi, you also won't have problems with volts, you can switch form the 3.3V line to the 5V line (allows up to 4V to your ram) but Oskar Wu says if you do, place a fan over the mosfets or only use 5V for benching purposes :D

187(V)URD@ 25th January 2005 08:28

Some good info kristos!

I got 2*256MB kingston BH-5, 2bad it isn't 512MB.
But it can do 280fsb 2-2-2-6 on 3.4V (single channel)

So i'll stick with my BH5 and bench a bit then :D.

187(V)URD@ 25th January 2005 22:40

I doubting between X850Pro or the X800XL.

X800Xl (0.11΅= 350$
X850Pro (0.13΅)=399$

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/177/
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/x800xl/
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzAw

I would go for the X800XL bcause of the 0.11΅ (oc?!)core but i rather wait till more guys have such cards so I can compare those cards.

187(V)URD@ 2nd February 2005 16:39

what TFT screens should I buy for gaming purpose.

I was thinking about the 431 or 435 from Ilyama and the 710T from samsung.

kr15t0f 2nd February 2005 20:19

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
what TFT screens should I buy for gaming purpose.

I was thinking about the 431 or 435 from Ilyama and the 710T from samsung.

I got the 431 and I can't think of a bad thing about this screen.

At school we got a few pc's with that samsung screen, and I don't notice any difference, but at school a don't game.

But I think they'll both very good screens.

Dunno what the 435 is, allmost the same as the 431?

187(V)URD@ 9th February 2005 17:03

die 431s komt zonder DVI kabel ?

kr15t0f 9th February 2005 17:21

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
die 431s komt zonder DVI kabel ?
indeed.

I had to buy one.

187(V)URD@ 9th February 2005 18:25

how much € for that ?

kr15t0f 9th February 2005 19:53

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
how much € for that ?
I bought one @ SG (arena51 now) for €12 I think. But normaly the price is a lot higher.

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 00:17

eerste van de setup is al besteld, tft scherm dus.

volgende zal een X800XL vivo(300€) of X850PR0(...€) zijn.

kr15t0f 10th February 2005 00:26

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
eerste van de setup is al besteld, tft scherm dus.

volgende zal een X800XL vivo(300€) of X850PR0(...€) zijn.

431s ?

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 01:07

yes.

agent #2 10th February 2005 13:29

Good choise. I have that one 2 here and I love it. :o

kr15t0f 10th February 2005 14:02

Quote:

Originally posted by agent #2
Good choise. I have that one 2 here and I love it. :o
² very nice screen indeed

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 14:55

dode pixelgarantie 18" 45€ ?

Moet je dat nemen ?

kr15t0f 10th February 2005 15:04

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
dode pixelgarantie 18" 45€ ?

Moet je dat nemen ?

Ik heb geeneen dode pixel. Ma als ge het op zekerhed wilt spelen pakt ge da mss best, is wel zware afrip, ma ge krijgt een perfect scherm

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 15:26

waar ergens hebben jullie dit scherm gehaald , heb men bestelling nog niet betaald.

jmke 10th February 2005 15:37

it's time to switch to Franηais or Deutsch now that way we cycle the languages a bit;p

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 15:41

ne pas francais oder deutch plz. :D

seems like the X800XL Powercolor is quite good for his price :).

1.6΅ memory and pricetag 300€ :o

agent #2 10th February 2005 21:49

I got mine at hofline's. First the send me a white one when I ordered a silver one. The white one had 1 "lazy" pixel. But eventualy I returned it and they gave me a silver one. No "dead" or "lazy" pixels. :super:

187(V)URD@ 10th February 2005 22:05

hehe , I finally ordered.

NL sites asked for pixel warrentie which was quite much imo.

But my main shop (vv computer) was overpriced 339€ for 431S is too high.
So I mailed them and asked why the price was so high compared to other sites and said i ordered a copple of times at VV computer.

They mailed back that the price was changed to 239€.

Lets hope the pixels are fine.

kr15t0f 10th February 2005 22:09

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@
hehe , I finally ordered.

NL sites asked for pixel warrentie which was quite much imo.

But my main shop (vv computer) was overpriced 339€ for 431S is too high.
So I mailed them and asked why the price was so high compared to other sites and said i ordered a copple of times at VV computer.

They mailed back that the price was changed to 239€.

Lets hope the pixels are fine.

Is that screen that cheap allready, bought mine 7 months ago for €485 :(

187(V)URD@ 25th February 2005 22:27

ordered that screen like 2 weeks ago but still didn't arrive @ the shop.
Its harder to get such older screen in Germany since they have newer poducts then in .be

But I am starting to think they wanna offer me another screen if it takes too long for about the same price.

Maybe you guys know the best TFT screen below 17"(black) and hes to be BenQ.

http://shop.vv-computer.de/shop/grup...1ae08dc05aecbb

187(V)URD@ 4th March 2005 17:17

Ok 2 weeks after i payed i still don't have my Iiyama.

Quote:

We call every day with the manufactor. But when he can΄t deliver the TFT, we don΄t have any chance.... We can only wait an hope......

He can΄t give us a date of deliver, too.

Im really Sorry.
So now I want some quick but good advice because i need a screen as soon as possible.

Wait for the Iiyama 431s or buy the samsung 710T or 172X (need to pay 339€) from the same shop.

187(V)URD@ 8th March 2005 18:48

kristof heb jij misschien UT of ander snel spel want ik zou eigenlijk willen weten of er ghosting aanwezig is.
Hoe is de kwaliteit van films?

De IIyama 431S is daar nog altijd niet binnen en begin wel een beetje pissed te worden.

Ook de Benq 937S+ staat me wel aan.
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/dis...15/lcd-06.html

Ik kan ze beide betalen maar ik kan moeilijk kiezen :(

kr15t0f 8th March 2005 21:05

nope, ik zie nieks ghosting, en de kwaliteit in films is ook zeer goed

tot nu toe heb ik nog geen minpunt aan dit scherm ondervonden
(heb het nu al +- 8 maanden)

wel hebt ge nen beperkte kijkhoek tegenover crt , ma da hebt ge bij iedere TFT he.

187(V)URD@ 9th March 2005 12:19

kan je er een paar foto's van trekken ? :D

kr15t0f 9th March 2005 13:26

kzal zien da ik tegen vanavond een paar maak :D

batteryen van digicam zijn nog nie opgeladen

kr15t0f 12th March 2005 10:13

hier zijn enkele foto's

klik

ik heb foto's gepakt tijdens ut, tijdens wa snelle momenten en geen ghosting te bemerken.

Heb foto's gepakt van scherm zelf, het ge zowa een gedacht hoe het scherm er uit ziet

Heb ook foto's gepakt tijdens filmke vanuit zeer scherpe hoeken om te zien hoe scherp uw kijkhoek mag zijn voor ge slecht beeld krijgt.
langst zijkant vind ik da ge nie echt een kwaliteitsverlies merkt
langst bovenkant ook niet echt
Langst onderkant merkt ge toch het meeste kwaliteitsverlies, maar dit is al bij een zeer scherpe kijkhoek.

187(V)URD@ 12th March 2005 11:09

hehe merci eh kristof :D.
Onze pa overhalen dat em 2 van die schermen moet gaan kopen :)
We hebben hier nog 2 grote 19" crt's staan die veel plaats inpakken.

Anyway bij de winkel waar ik besteld had hadden ze die nie op stock en ze wisten de leverdatum nog niet eens na 4 weken.

Dus was ik genoodzaakt een ander scherm te bestellen.

Heb dan maar voor de 19" TFT BENQ 937S+ gekozen na veel lezen en opzoek werk.
was trouwens maar 120€ meer :).

Had er goede reviews van gelezen en ook van forum gebruikers, de hyundai L90D+ wou ik in plaats van de 937S+ kopen maar na veel forums te lezen hadden vele mensen problemen met dode pixels en de onderkant veel lichter dan de bovenkant en daarbij op nog van die donkere vierkantjes op u scherm.

Mja had liever die IIyama gekocht en van de rest had ik een nieuwe AMD64 venice + mobo van kunnen kopen.

187(V)URD@ 18th March 2005 21:06

Today my Benq 937s+ arrived.

187(V)URD@ 18th March 2005 21:13

I guess they throwed with it.
Got a bend in my screen so the panel came loose from the actual display.

I don't know it affects the performance or anything but I don't wanna take the risk and I will send It back and I hope BenQ delivers another.

Atleast I could game but I think the monitor is wasted because i see trailing and sometimes blur.
And since more people had this monitor I could see mine wasn't OK.

kr15t0f 18th March 2005 21:13

open it!!! open it!!! :cheer:

edit: you posted the pic of the screen at the same time of this reply :D

edit #2: read your reply. That sucks man, waited a very long time for a screen, and when you finaly have it there you see that some #@$]* broke it

187(V)URD@ 18th March 2005 21:29

Yeah but it works but that isn't enough for me if you pay 400€ for a screen.

I hope BenQ has a good service. :(
I got a shitty camera, I'll post some pics saterday :p

deronny 19th March 2005 11:42

hihi at tacops pic

187(V)URD@ 22nd March 2005 20:11

2 first updates are in


Benq937s+ (400€)

187(V)URD@ 22nd March 2005 20:14

My 6800le(12p*6vp)



I planned to buy a x800xl agp version but didn't because the long waiting times.

187(V)URD@ 31st March 2005 20:22

My 6800le arrived today, going to do a quick bench :).

Anyone knows a good driver for 680xx cards ?

Also getting a new BENQ and i can make a review off it(previous screen was fubar)

jmke 31st March 2005 21:25

just get the latest from nvidia.com


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