Thing is, tbreb b goes much higher than 2000mhz, 2300-2400 is a fairly typical overclock with the right dlt3c.

so that 3200 of your p4 is suddenly not that much (if any) faster anymore for more than double the price

That's what I would call bang for the buck.

... but the AMD cpu's still lack those little, but quite handy assets such as described above

>> hyperthreading, quad-pumped 200MHz FSB ...

it's about to show it's nature ...

thing is, that p4 "c" goes much then 3.2; 3.5-3.6 is a fairly typical overclock with the right P7.

so that 2.4 of your AMD is suddenly...
:p

intell made quite a good cpu with their "c" and amd is getting behind because of that, but with the a64 it will kick intell's ***

and another thing, i would like te see some benches between an p4 3.0 ghz and an amd 3.0 ghz ( the amd is cooled with an prome and reaches 2995 mhz -> laurens )
i'll bet it will kick *** and that is an chip of what 60? 70 €? so and what costs an p4 3.0 or lets even say an 2.4

conclusion: you can't compare the 2

greetz

with the same prommy setup that P4 will reach 4+ghz and still blow the AMD away :*

Just look at the facts. If you got the bucks, get a good P4 system. It's the fastest around ATM.
If you're on budget, don't even think about it.

we were talking about value, how come this suddenly turned to plain fastness.

and i don't think that the p4 @ 4ghz can touch an A64 @ 3ghz

well, a proc doing 2600MHz and more (freakin instable psu?) for 63 € is a good bang for the buck:^D

that i know

but i was talking about an comparison between an p4 3.0 and an AMD @ 3.0 :*

anyway this is an discussion with no ending

greetz

for the cost of that A64 @ 3ghz you have a P4 EE 3.4 @ 4.6
etc etc

:)

@ 3ghz comparison: it is an old fact that the AMD does more calculations per cpu cycle..