This one available in Belgium yet?
 

New toys!;)

Not spotted in .be yet, but i've seen this shiny toy at funcomputer.de:
Bundle ASUS K8V Deluxe, Athlon 64 3200+, Cooler €599

Yum. :)

as saaon as I can get this combo for a price lower then 450 €, i'll go for it :)

Ditto

Question: is this the best athlon 64 mobo till now?

i changed mij 1800+ with a duron @ 1ghz for testing ,
see no difference :)

you will if you start gaming :*

and this was the end of one afternoon of benching.
:super:

what's the price of that packet ? mobo + cpu + cooler ?

Like I posted in that otherthread, 799 euros retail. :)

:)

bleh. @ funcomp same setup only asus mobo 599 euro. what makes you're come worth it's 200 € extra ?

taxes ?

The 200euros go in the "help sarc get a brand new Ferrari" fund. :p

Seriously, I don't know. Of course taxes are going to be a part of it however the price doesn't seem that high considering excl taxes it still costs about 630 euros at most of our distributers. And I'm not familiar with the Asus bundle so it's likely there's a few differences between the two aswell.

I am not pimping it in any way, we just got it in and I decided to play with it for a little, just to see how it works. Everything in windows doesn't seem to be a lot faster, and we have had some trouble getting it to function normally. Once we had the right Via drivers everything seemed fine though.

We're currently looking to "acquire" a 64bit windows version or Linux distro, to see how that works.

Is the MSI the best athlon 64 mobo? I wouldn't know, for I have seen just one. By the looks of it, it looks like any other board by MSI, cheap! And that's not a good thing when you have to shell out 799 for the combo. ;) Onboard features on the other hand where excellent.

looks nifty :)

And the cooler, is it silent and well performing ?

Quite silent and it cooled very well. When touching the heatsink during 3dmark runs it was about 42 degrees.

You can measure temps by touching things? :)

How much power does this CPU pull?

onboard firewire in 2 different connectors!! that's a MAJOR plus!

yeah. Example: when MBM says the CPU is about 40 degrees, I touch it, feel if it is slightly warmer than my body temp and if it is, I trust the value.

How much power it pulls? I don't know. You could probably find it in it's spec sheet over at AMD's website. It will be around 80watts is my guess.

:^D

lol :D

Ok, I'll rephrase it yet again for you pendantic bastards.

I use my finger to validate the temperature motherboard monitor or Asus probe gives me. There, happy now? :p

question is... is it as slow as hardwaresites say it is?
coz I think it's slow as hell...

does it overclock?
and how fast is it maximally overclocked, coz' I won't trade in my 3.65 240 fsb 1:1 p4 powerbeast for a slomo athlon 64...

A stock athlon64 3200+ with a stock R9800 pro gives you 20k+ 3Dmarks... I would like to see a P4 doing that on stock speed.

Overclock? This is the first batch and ppl are already getting a 50% overclock (+3Ghz). Not too shabby for a brand new core!

The A64 is amazing. Period.

those +3ghz is with LN2...

the A64 can be amasing, but the P4 2.4 "C" has it beat for price/performance ratio! and not by a small margin may I add.

And the P4 2.4C in his turn gets beaten by a XP1700+ price / performance wise. Your point being? :)

A64 is expensive, true. But the future is bright. :^)

3.6ghz aircooled P4 is slower then an XP 2.4ghz?
do please share your thoughts...

price preformance wise, that my tought.

gonna buy a second setup if I can still get one.

Not slower, but cheaper and still very performant.

My second hand tbred b setup:
XP1800+ : 50 eur
8rda+ : 50 eur

My second hand P4 2.6C setup:
P4 2.6C: 200 eur
P4P800-VM: 100 eur

Sure, my P4 at 3.3Ghz is faster than my AMD at 2ghz, but it's only noticable thanks to hyperthreading. When running 2 apps at the time, the intel is noticably faster, but not in games or programming.

I don't want to flame Intel, really, but the P4 is not the best price perf, nor the fastest. It's ideal for the well set PC enthousiast. :)

my 2nd hand P4 2.4C / P4C800 setup totalled at 250€
even at 3.2ghz it outruns the AMD @ 2ghz.. in games/apps/encoding etc.. and not by a small margin :*

+overall usage in windows is blindingly fast compared to the AMD setup :-)

yeah, that was a real bargain. :)

I disagree, but I don't want to discuss symantics.

don't get me wrong, the XP is a lot of "bang" for the buck
but overal you will have more fun and FUTURE rewards from the P4 setup, that HT surely gives it the edge, even though it will cost you more, you will see a difference right away, and in one year you'll still be able to follow the best, while that AXP with its nForce2 chipsetted mobo will begin to drag behind.

Those Quad Pumped 200Mhz lines between CPU and memory will pay off sooner or later :)

Define "slow" ;)

I agree with RB, it has amazing potential, and it already boasts amazing performance. We haven't even seen half of it yet because a 64bit OS and 64bit apps are not very common.

For being a "first" batch, it's a great processor.

Thing is, tbreb b goes much higher than 2000mhz, 2300-2400 is a fairly typical overclock with the right dlt3c.

so that 3200 of your p4 is suddenly not that much (if any) faster anymore for more than double the price

That's what I would call bang for the buck.

... but the AMD cpu's still lack those little, but quite handy assets such as described above

>> hyperthreading, quad-pumped 200MHz FSB ...

it's about to show it's nature ...

thing is, that p4 "c" goes much then 3.2; 3.5-3.6 is a fairly typical overclock with the right P7.

so that 2.4 of your AMD is suddenly...
:p

intell made quite a good cpu with their "c" and amd is getting behind because of that, but with the a64 it will kick intell's ***

and another thing, i would like te see some benches between an p4 3.0 ghz and an amd 3.0 ghz ( the amd is cooled with an prome and reaches 2995 mhz -> laurens )
i'll bet it will kick *** and that is an chip of what 60? 70 €? so and what costs an p4 3.0 or lets even say an 2.4

conclusion: you can't compare the 2

greetz

with the same prommy setup that P4 will reach 4+ghz and still blow the AMD away :*

Just look at the facts. If you got the bucks, get a good P4 system. It's the fastest around ATM.
If you're on budget, don't even think about it.

we were talking about value, how come this suddenly turned to plain fastness.

and i don't think that the p4 @ 4ghz can touch an A64 @ 3ghz

well, a proc doing 2600MHz and more (freakin instable psu?) for 63 € is a good bang for the buck:^D

that i know

but i was talking about an comparison between an p4 3.0 and an AMD @ 3.0 :*

anyway this is an discussion with no ending

greetz

for the cost of that A64 @ 3ghz you have a P4 EE 3.4 @ 4.6
etc etc

:)

@ 3ghz comparison: it is an old fact that the AMD does more calculations per cpu cycle..