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RichBa5tard 13th April 2003 13:16

3ghz 800FSB P4 is here
 
"only" 517 eur and in stock at this german shop. I expected higher pricing.

:rod: Calantak & Gamer

The Senile Doctor 13th April 2003 19:13

dunno if I need this stuff...

it's at 200 fsb
my ram maxes out at 225 that means, I can get to 3375...
I work at 3500 with my 3.06 now...
we need better ram for this to function...
ram that does 260 is a minimum...
ram will bottleneck, these are antioverclocker cpu's

The Senile Doctor 14th April 2003 14:42

hmm

all the canterwood reviews leave me with some questions...

there aren't any dividers on the ram

However you can run fixed ram speeds like 266-333-400... or am I wrong.

Meaning if you have a 3.0-200 you run it at 200dcddr

however if youd ecide to overclock it, your ram will be the problem.

however hardocp runs their 3.0 at 3.6 using watercooling (which is a pretty normal result, seeing I can run 3.5 on air from my 3.06)
however, their fsb is 245 at that moment, which is fairly normal too...using a multi of 15 ;)
but their ram is at 392 at that time...

how is this possible???


I've read you can run the 533 cpu's at dcddr 400 too
but doesn't that mean your ram will bump up to 210 when you up the fsb to 150? of is it fixed?

does anybody know?

The Senile Doctor 15th April 2003 12:39

someone know anything round here??
;)

jmke 15th April 2003 13:30

no this is a place of questions, but no answers

maybe it has to do with the fact that only 2 out of 555 members can afford a P4 3ghz :p

The Senile Doctor 15th April 2003 15:59

and xtremesystems is down...

jmke 15th April 2003 16:01

we're going offtopic again ;)

hope it aint for long though. www.xtremesystems.org (their downtime that is)

RichBa5tard 15th April 2003 16:18

Again? blah

I'm going to read up about P4 200FSB tomorrow, i hope I'll can clearify your answer by then.

jmke 15th April 2003 17:20

they are back up
200FSB for now looks to be 5-15% increase over the 133Mhz versions.

Gamer 15th April 2003 18:26

I'll first check what that GB mobo does, no canterwood or PIV 800 needed for the moment.

Benchmarks suck, expected more.

The Senile Doctor 15th April 2003 19:12

that's why I never got on that gb mobo...

I'm very eager to see if I can async that ram positively...

Gamer 15th April 2003 19:20

didn't get it yet :)
Ill see what your baby (2.66) can do on it when I receive it.

PIV 3.06 is sold out, must wait at least a week :(

The Senile Doctor 17th April 2003 11:54

you happy sport :)
you MUST wait three weeks!!!!
the price wil go down over 100 euro's on the 3.06!!!!!


I've just ordered canterwood asus board!
I'll have it next week

RichBa5tard 17th April 2003 12:01

Quote:

Originally posted by calantak
I've just ordered canterwood asus board!
I'll have it next week

:woot:

Won't it peform badly with your low-fsb P4 3.06ghz?

Gamer 17th April 2003 16:03

package is lost I think, it's in Belgium, but nobody knows where it is ???

order PIV 3.06 canceld.

jmke 17th April 2003 16:04

?? Calantak's package?

Gamer 17th April 2003 16:26

no, mine

Bought it by K&M elektronik, it was send to me on 10/04 and arrived in belgium on 11/04 (checked German post).
and now its lost :(

RichBa5tard 17th April 2003 17:33

damn :/

was it insured?

Zinzin 17th April 2003 18:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Gamer
no, mine

Bought it by K&M elektronik, it was send to me on 10/04 and arrived in belgium on 11/04 (checked German post).
and now its lost :(

A package for me from the same shop was returned. However nobody came to my place with a package or left a message...

Belgian post doesn't like german packages ???

jmke 17th April 2003 18:11

it arrived in belgium? what where how? where do they send it?

The Senile Doctor 17th April 2003 18:35

hmm

that sucks


however, if you haven't signed it...
you simply don't pay for it...

and canterwood/ p4 will be better now
@ richyB : I'll check my 3.06 with the prommy on this asus canterwood, and I'll see how it performs... if it sux, I sell the 3.06 and go for a 3.0

gotta get me two raptors too...
and a new rma-d 120 gb WD as data backup as I'm downing tons of movies :)

jmke 17th April 2003 18:43

let the shop fight it out with our sucky belgian mail "service" :)

RichBa5tard 17th April 2003 19:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Zinzin
Belgian post doesn't like german packages ???
I receive one or two packages from .de every week. I have had no bad experiences yet.

Gamer 17th April 2003 19:48

I phoned the German postoffice, they know it's in Belgium.

They change the packagenumber when it arrives in Belgium ???
so, go figure how can they track it.....

I'm not used to wait for something :)

tom 22nd April 2003 18:11

If you buy something outside Belgium, ask them to ship with UPS.
Never got problems with UPS :)

Gamer 22nd April 2003 19:21

it's back at the shop, don't know what happend.
pff, P4C800 here I come :p

Bosw8er 24th April 2003 22:02

:faint:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...threadid=16674

jmke 24th April 2003 22:29

Intel + Dual DDR power

Quote:

Since our i875P-Canterwood-Review of Monday letzer week reach us many letters by email and also some forum contributions, where for the Overclocking possibilities of the new chip set ask user. Mainly with around the possibility, 533 are a MHz processor on 800 MHz to over clocks - there this however within the specifications of the chip set lies, can quite confirm one the possibility - here is the limit rather because of the processor.

Many questions are occupied however with the over clock bar of 800 MHz processors. This new CPUs finally already possesses an extremely high front Side bus - with a firm multiplicator therefore naturally a Overclocking over FSB is to be classified riskily. Encouraged of our reports of news of the Soltek Springdale Mainboard with 1200 MHz come then however the dreams to perhaps lure a Pentium 4 on this frequency.

We have therefore a Canterwood Mainboard - which ASUS P4C800 Deluxe - for a test with 800 MHz a processor equipped and this over-clocks, in order to test, which FSB is reached. Came out the following results:



A bus clock of 325 MHz results due to the QDR bus of the Pentium 4 into an effective front Side bus of nevertheless 1300 MHz - that is even still more, than Soltek in the proud press release communicates. Of course this frequency no more cannot be driven with a synchronous storing act - with 1300 MHz DDR650 would be necessary. We had the storing act two times to therefore lower - altogether here the Setting "DDR266" is used, we operates the memory thus with a 2/3-Teiler. Effectively this results in a frequency of 216.66 MHz, which corresponds to DDR433



It can be doubted also here whether the Canterwood limits the system - dual DDR433 is already for a system a challenge. With better memory - we used Corsair XMS3200LL-Speichermodule - can be reached here possibly also still more, because a 1/2-divisor for the RAM does not possess the Canterwood unfortunately.

Who wants thus with the i875P-Chipsatz over clocks, the following should consider:

With our short test we knew the chip set around 62,5% over clocks. That is for most Pentium 4-Prozessoren somewhat much - even with very high tension and good cooling one will not be able a 3.0C-Prozessor on the resulting 4.875 Ghz over clocks. A over clocking within this range appears thus as improbable - even if one reaches outstanding 4 Ghz, must the Canterwood only around 33% be over-clocked - in this case is thus enough a FSB of 266 MHz and/or. 1066 MHz perfectly out.

The large problem with over clocks with the i875P is the memory interface. DDR400 is actually already synchronous at the limit, would like one the memory interface clocks, then one will be already quite fast at the end, even if DDR466 or similarly luxurioeser memory is used. One over-clocks asynchronously, then high bus clocks can be quite reached.

About own experience reports we are pleased naturally in the forum.

The Senile Doctor 25th April 2003 12:18

3.0 is underway for me, i should have it wednesday

coupled with the asus p4c800 that's installed allready :)

Bosw8er 30th April 2003 08:49

http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboar...429/index.html
Our tests show that the old Intel 7205 chipset runs stably with a new P4 processor at an FSB clock of 200 MHz. This raises the question of what advantages the new high-end 875 chipset really has over the old 7205. Moreover, in the benchmarks, the two chipsets give about the same results.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/othe...4800/page1.htm
Both processors, AMD Barton XP3000+ (400) and the Intel Pentium 4 3.0G (800) has excellent performance in various categories. In fact, in most of the tests, the P4 leads the way. Well, this can be due to a number of reasons like a better chipset which is optimised for HT and multimedia applications.

jmke 30th April 2003 09:23

Ein aktuelles Spiel mit DirectX8-Support ist Unreal Tournament 2003. Bei diesem Test fällt der SiS 658 hinter der Konkurrenz zurück.


http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboa...9/7204-06.html

the reviewer switches languages during the article? :^D

The Senile Doctor 30th April 2003 10:39

humming along prime95 at 230 fsb = 3450 mhz on aircooling

RichBa5tard 30th April 2003 12:21

Max aircooled? Or just playing a bit?

The Senile Doctor 30th April 2003 12:31

testing primestability.

it's been running 3 hours now, i still have lots of work to do, so i'll leave it on.
If it's still running in sex hours, it's considered stable, it's priming, downing some movies, there's lots of big unrars started just now, and my nephew is playing some games on it.

If it doesn't crash, I'll be pumping it up later

this is at 1.6 actual volts

FreeStyler 30th April 2003 14:19

waar het hart van vol is, loopt de mond van over.

(sorry for the english guys, but this just had to be done in dutch)

jmke 30th April 2003 14:46

Quote:

Originally posted by calantak
If it's still running in sex hours,
you need a doctor :^D

The Senile Doctor 30th April 2003 15:03

moehahahaha

I need sex
I need a prommy
I need a carrera 4s

need lots of stuff

Gamer 30th April 2003 18:46

a spanking ?

The Senile Doctor 30th April 2003 19:22

I can now attest to the fact that 3.6 ghz -240*15 is officially primestable at 1.57 volts

jmke 30th April 2003 19:32

he be spanking his brandnew HT enabled CPU
would die to have one like that in my workstation

at least that way the CPU would actually be used for its meant purpose, multitasking :p


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