p4 mobo
 

Hiya,

I need a new p4 motherboard.

I can get this motherboard for 200 €

ABIT IC7-MAX3 (Intel 875P (Canterwood), P4 478 800FSB, 6SATA, SATARAID (0+1), 4DDR Dual Channel PC3200, 5PCI, CSA Gb LAN, OTES Tech ) IN STOCK € 249,90

but I don't need sate stuff, ...

Then my eye spotted this one:

ABIT IS7-E (Intel 865PE, P4 478 800FSB, SATA, 4DDR Dual Channel PC3200, 5PCI, 6 channel SOUND, LAN) IN STOCK € 104,90

That's only 105 €...

difference is the chipset. Is it any good ? colin has that board and hes reaching 292 fsb with a 2.4 c :)

the springdale is the best bang for the buck for your P4 rig

springdale is is7 ? correct ?

canterwood is ig7 ?

iC7
like you stated in your 1st post ;)

oki.

motherboard I'm sure about, is7 it is.

Now the cpu and ram. 2.6 or 2.8 C

And memory, pc3200, but corsair or geil. Price is the almost the same, corsair a little more expensive....
I heard some people have problems running corsair on the is7 ?

I have 2 is7's. Not too fond of it, but they aren't crap either. I just bought them because of the attractive price.

I've got a 2.6C@ 250fsb 5/4 pat disabled and a 2.8C @ 260fsb 5/4 pat disabled running 24/7 stable. It wasn't easy to get stable though, i don't know why but memtimings and cpuclock are not independed.

I've tested 4 sticks Corsair XMS 3200 CL2 (winbond bh-6) and didn't encounter problems on the is7.

If I would get a new board, i would defenitly go for the asus p4p800 instead of the abit is7. Believe it or not, the small asus p4p800-vm i sold you was a better, and more stable overclocker than my is7's. A pitty you couldn't lock the overclock in bios, otherwhise i wouldn't have sold it. You can force clockgen to overclock everytime at boot though.

I don't like the clockgen way of overclocking, and it had almost no voltage options....

So, what board would you advise me ? I do not intend to voltmod the boards....

btw, doesn't pat give you a huge performanc boost ? Why disabling it ?

The is7 is more overclocker friendly than the p4p800 vm...

Can you overclock the "normal" p4p800 in bios, and with voltage options ?

ow, corsair or geil ?

wtf do you mean with "almost no"

clockgen changes the CLOCKspeed, otherwise it would have been called "VOLTgen".
set your vcore higher in the BIOS, the use clockgen to find the limit.

most bang4buck = 2.4c

difference between i865 en i875 is mainly pat certified or not. You can enable pat on the is7, but it overclocks even far worse when enabled.

You can't adjust voltages on the p4p800-vm, but it gives a stable 1.585vcore. Do you want to run +1.6v through a 200$ cpu? I alwas put the vcore on my is on 1.575, because on both they drop 0.075v (!!) under load. If I would have wanted the stable 1.585v of the p4p800 is would have to set the is7 to 1.65v (idle)... which is too much.

You don't have vdimm adjustments, true, but you will most likely end up running 250 ~ 260 on 5/4 so your ram will be able to run at stock voltage.

I would buy cheap ram that can do 5-2-2 cl2 at 200~ 210mhz and aim for 4/5 divider.

I meant that i could only change the voltage in bios of my memory...

BTW, for p4, everything below 1.7 Vcore is ok ;D

I allready sold the p4p800 vm. I'm aiming towards a nice 3.5 Ghz :) If posible :)

Your rushing into conclusions. You should have given the P4 setup another shot. ;)

1.7v? Please remember me not to buy used P4's from you. ;) I play safe and keep it below 1.6v.

that's why i want a new setup, better OC possebilities, ....

Oh well, at least you've sold the p4 for a great price. :)

1.7v doesn't kill
1.8v+ does. :*

i know, that's why i want to set it to 1.65. With fluctuations, i will get in the worst case 1.7.

Now, the is7 and overclocking. Seems a great board to me ? or not ?

Any advise for another board sub 150 € price range ?

also wondering. Sell my AMD setup also, and build a complete p4 setup (then I could buy the best of the best almost....). OIr build a basic setup olny for benching and testing ? What would you do ?

I experienced that the p4 i used to have ( 27 hours to be exactly :)), wasn't that much faster than my amd...

[M] tests the I865 mobo's,

Piotke keeps the best one and publishes his findings @ www.madshrimps.be

hmm...

could you mail me any details concerning this. What to get where ...

My IS7-E is a dream.
It would do 300 MHz fsb, but then I have to give the cpu an unhealthy 1.75v :/

3.5x GHz - 295 MHz FSB is stable though.

6150 MB/s with cheap TwinMOS ram isn't too bad either.

3D Mark score is fine too (plz mind I was only able to run 10 tests, it is my sister's card, so I could only use stock cooling on card, no memsinks or whatever)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7078106

ASUS P4P800 DELUXE (Intel 865PE, P4 478 800FSB, SATA, 4DDR Dual Channel PC3200, 5PCI, SOUND, Firewire, Gigabit 3COM LAN) IN STOCK € 145,00

any good ?

and the most important question.

OCZ pc3200 or corsair ?

just don't use CH5 ram with your setup and you're fine.

i'm buying corsair.

how do i know what chips i've got ?

btw, buying a p4p800 non deluxe for 110 €

if you buy buy corsair check either it's v1.1 or v1.2
if it's v1.1 you have a winner BH chippies :D
else it will be CH's.
corsair xms3500c2 still uses BH5, but still check the version numbers to be certain.

xms3200c2 v1.1=>BH6 (don't make them anymore, i think)
xms3200c2 v1.2=>CH6
xms3200c2LL v1.1=>BH5(don't make them anymore, i think)
xms3200c2LL v1.2=>CH5
i thought other xms'en use CH chips nowadays

A friend of mine had xms3200c2 v1.1, incompatible with Springdale and Canterwood.

it's probably corsair LL rev 1.2 --> ch-5

I'll test it on my upcoming intel setup, and if it's not workin that well, i'll put the corsair in my amd, finally decent timings, end my twinmoss in my p4, simple isn't it ? :)

CH-5 reaches reasonably high mhz, but always on relax timings.

You will most likely not hit 250 1/1, so you will end up running 250 4/5 on relax timings...

250 and 4/5 is not that good.

it is LL from corsair, so I might be ruse that it will reach over 200 fsb on decent timings, no ?

hey, i've spend much money on mem the last few months, and at the end I'm running a 2.6c and 2.8c both at 260fsb 4/5.

My 300$ mushkin black level II can do 240 5-2-2 cl2, but what's the use if 260 4/5 5-2-2 cl2 is way faster? Read Gamer's thread (PC4200 a waste of money?), don't go for 1/1, go for 4/5 at aggresive timings.

hmm oki.

I'm still aiming towards 275/225 :)