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ssl6 7th September 2004 16:50

cant get fsb over 200???
 
ok, i jus got my new abit board in.....and i still cant get my fsb over 200, im using ocz pc3200 1gb platinum....not the revision 2, the old revision 2-3-2-5 timings. ive raised the mem voltage, chipset voltage, im using a mobile 2500 chip, nf7-s mobo rev2. i cant use the 12.5 multi anymore, but 12 and 13 are safe. my mem shoudl be able to hit 220 with the stock timings, i have tried to loosen the timings. any ideas??? cuz im stumped

kristos 7th September 2004 17:06

tried with lower multi already?

ssl6 7th September 2004 23:49

as low as 10

Makaveli7 28th September 2004 01:00

I know this is an oldie but ssl I have a very similar setup to you and have had the same problems (abit nf7-s, athlon-m 2500+, corsair ram, 450w antec psu). I've got a new antec 450w psu that provides enough juice, new xp athlon-m 2500+, low cpu temps, good memory, but i still can't get past 200fsb (can get to 202 but thats absolute max). The 2500+ is on 1.775v so I don't have much more headway. Have you had any luck?

ssl6 28th September 2004 01:06

no luck yet, im gonna try overclocking it from windows with the nvidia sys utility, gonna set my multi to 11, and voltage to 1.9 in the bios, and see how i can get it in windows, and prime it while im slowly movin it up...if it goes up at all

Sidney 28th September 2004 01:24

Same board you have NF7-S R2. XP2600+ M 12x200; 11x215 @1.650 Volt; 12.5x200 @1.775 Volt.

I am running it about 16 hours day 12x200.

Sys 2 NF7 XP1700+ 10.5x200 @1.775 using PC2700.

May be your BIOS setup.

kristos 28th September 2004 03:54

Have eather of you tried the l12 mod on your mobiles yet?

I've never had the problem with mine but HaLDoL told me he once had a mobile that wouldn't do 200 fsb no matter what he tried. He did an l12 mod on it and it went straight to ~240 fsb without braking a sweat.

ssl6 28th September 2004 13:16

i tried the L12. my system wont power on with it.....maybe i did it wrong

jmke 28th September 2004 13:21

more then likely;)

ssl6 28th September 2004 16:16

bah, ill try it again later, for now i gotta get around to tryin nvsys utility

Makaveli7 28th September 2004 22:33

aghhh! theres a mod? geez and you guys never told me, :grum: I found this link from some american guy, he's freakin nuts http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=102&page=2
. Can't find any decent guides tho. Gonna try and change the multiplier as it caused problems before

jmke 28th September 2004 22:40

no offence, but that "american guy" did nothing out of the ordinary in the OC world :)

here's a mod worth drooling over http://www.madshrimps.be/gotowebnews.php?id=2844

kristos 28th September 2004 23:12

Makaveli7 : here's a good guide and the l12 mod is explained and demonstrated in there aswell :
http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/abit_nf7_(s)_v2_0.htm
and here's one for the mod only :
http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/ht...md_pinmod.html
select what you need (cpu view, barton, 166fsb) and it'll show you what pins to connect. Mind you, don't bother the 200fsb mod cuz it won't work on mobiles :)

offtopic: jmke (or anyone else :)) do you know a guide for modding memory sticks like in Hipro5's guide cuz he says "mod your mem too for stability" but he just shows some pics and doesn't even say how.
I've been meaning to go through his thread on XS but haven't found the time yet...

jmke 28th September 2004 23:17

don't know about the memory mod

Sidney 28th September 2004 23:48

http://www.lvcoyote.com/

As I said before; somehow both of my NF-7 boards work well over 200 without the mod. Only limited by my memory sticks.:)

kristos 29th September 2004 00:00

nice link :)

ssl6 29th September 2004 14:04

should i try the Mickey Padge NF7S_d1.0 bios? on this page? http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/downloads.htm

kristos 29th September 2004 15:13

no, this link has at least some explanation and results for all the different bios revisions.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...2&page=1&pp=30

be carefull though, if you have pata disks, you're ok with any bios but if you use sata disks, stay away from the older biosses (D10, ...)

also, if you use dual sided memory (afaik all 512mb modules), you need to get a bios with CPC off (except with the mushkin 256 sticks, they are dual sided but they seem to act as single sided).

here's another link for recent bios files but no explanation of any kind.
http://www.pc-tweaker.ch/Downloads/BiosMainboard.htm

ssl6 29th September 2004 15:26

crap, that screws me, cuz im using 2x512 ocz platinum sticks and a SATA hard drive....

kk. i got an idea....someone give me a url to the exact bios i shud use, jus look at my specs, pick 1. give me the link....and if it fails....i can blame someone else:)

jmke 29th September 2004 15:26

??
use a recent bios with CPC off;

ssl6 29th September 2004 15:29

ummm, i have the most recent bios....where is the CPC option again....maybe i missed that

jmke 29th September 2004 15:42

Quote:

you need to get a bios with CPC off
it's no setting afaik

ssl6 29th September 2004 15:45

AGHR. screw it....12x200 will be fine....its still a good oc, i can live with that

jmke 29th September 2004 15:55

still slower then 10.5x230 , by quite a bit ;)

ssl6 29th September 2004 15:58

k, does anyone have a good bios for this board that they can just email to me, ill flash it and c how it works

jmke 29th September 2004 16:02

Quote:

Originally posted by ssl6
k, does anyone have a good bios for this board that
you're joking right?

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...2&page=1&pp=30
http://www.pc-tweaker.ch/Downloads/BiosMainboard.htm
http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/downloads.htm
http://www.lvcoyote.com/

ssl6 29th September 2004 16:07

kk, ill try one of these Abit NF7-Sv2 D23 SUB-ZER0 SATA 4247/4227 modded by tictac....umm, any difference between 4247 and 4227?

kristos 29th September 2004 16:27

tictac told me 4247 is the most performant

You'd off known that if you'd actually read the posts we linked here!!

***IF YOU ARE USING SATA, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE D10. D10 IS KNOWN TO CORRUPT SATA DEVICES***
Quote:

S-ATA bios 4227 has less compatability problems, 4247 should have a lill higher benchmark scores


I've had good results with all tictac trats merlin and triest bios files, I only used version d24 (a few) and d25 (lots) and d26 (a few)

try this for staters : http://www.pc-tweaker.ch/Downloads/F... 001.09.04.rar

I've had no corrupt flashes yet so in my humble opinion, it's pretty safe.

ssl6 29th September 2004 16:30

ok, thnx, ill keep posted

Laagvliegerke 29th September 2004 17:26

Try other memory timings (2-3-3-11). It's known that nForceČ bord like "11" :)
Rising the AGP-voltage also helps sometimes.

Makaveli7 29th September 2004 23:24

thxs jmke and kristos for the l12 mod links. From the looks of it I have a NF7 that will not do over 200fsb. What would you guys recommend:
RMA the mobo (or selling it on ebay) and getting another
or going for a completely different mobo
what mobo would you recommend instead for a athlon-m 2500+?

jmke 29th September 2004 23:24

DFI Infinity is known to reach high speeds

Sidney 30th September 2004 00:08

Quote:

thxs jmke and kristos for the l12 mod links. From the looks of it I have a NF7 that will not do over 200fsb. What would you guys recommend:
RMA the mobo (or selling it on ebay) and getting another
or going for a completely different mobo
what mobo would you recommend instead for a athlon-m 2500+?
I would RMA if you were in the U.S. Abit would give you back a kick *** board, I did twice.

Selling in eBay is an option provided you state the fact that it wouldn't go over 200 FSB, otherwise you are taking a chance of getting return.

jmke 30th September 2004 00:27

more info concerning what mobo to get if you decide to switch http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...&threadid=8091

ssl6 30th September 2004 02:04

heh, i flashed that bios, im doing 11x220 right now, prime stable. memory is 2.5-3-3-11 :) hehehe, and jus when i was giving up, im gonna push it so more and get some BM's after a clean install

kristos 30th September 2004 03:35

Sorry to hear that Makaveli7 (you did check if the mod worked didn't you? load optimized defaults in the bios and check if it set the fsb to 166?) If you stay with abit, take Lazyman's advice, if you want another board, take jmke's advice and flash the latest bios or even better,a modded version of latest bios.

A new abit with a modded bios will get you on the way but it needs mods (just done the mods malves way and for a first time delicate solder/mod it was a realy frustrating event :grum: but on the bright side, everything still works :) ) to go the distance and even then, a modded dfi board will most likely beat the nf7 fsb wise. also, the dfi allows up to 3.3 V to the ram without mods.




Nice going ssl6 :)

Makaveli7 30th September 2004 14:49

ssl6 which bios did u use?

jmke 30th September 2004 15:03

quite an improvement there SSL6 !

ssl6 30th September 2004 20:04

yes it is:)

i gave my cpu 2.1v in the bios so i can oc it from windows with the nv utility (it doesnt give me voltage options for some reason) so im slowly pushing it up. i just bought my ram not too long ago...and its definitely not using bh5 chips like its sposed to. i hate having to loosen the timings so much, i know several people with the same kit that have hit 230 or so with the stock timings:(

im at 11.5x225 right now. and my timings are 2.5-4-3-11 and temps are 45c under load:)

jmke 30th September 2004 20:19

2.1v vcore is darn high


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