Ultra High Performance Memory Roundup A64 Socket 939
 

Socket 939 has established itself as THE gaming platform. To extract the utmost in performance from a 939 platform, some very good memory is needed. Today we are looking at 8 sets of memory modules which are based on Samsung´s TCCD chips. As many know, the TCCD chips are fast becoming legendary for their ability to clock to crazy levels with modest or even low voltages. Let's take a peak at how our provided samples behave in our test bed shall we!



http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=277

link to forum thread is not working ;)

btw Very Nice Article ;)

I first have to create the thread before I can link to it:) it's fixed now!

ps: calling this writeup "nice" is the understatement of the year 2005 :)

great work JNAV! :super:

hehe!
I'd say it felt similar to giving birth, that is doing this article. But my wife and all women who have given birth would probably kill me. Let's just say it was alot of work, that was enjoyable :)!

I'm not sure, but giving birth is not really "enjoyable" ;)

GSkill close to 10.000Mb/s in Sisoft Sandra : http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50407

wow :o

Another time consuming review ..... compressed 9-month pregnancy into a few weeks.:)

Good job! Time for me to getting some GSkill from Newegg.

Great article which answers many questions as to why some are hitting road blocks with their OCs.

Take me for example, running an Asus A8V, FX53 and Corsair PC3200XLPro (lights).
Stuck at 232mz on water, I ordered G.Skill LE and will receive it next tomorrow. 2 other people on the H are doing the same.

I just have to know the answer as to what is holding me back. If the memory doesn't help, at least I'll know it's my MB or an "unlucky" CPU.

Nice article. :o

Hi,

I was impressed with the article, but it raised a question I'd like to see an answer for.

Would you be able to show screenshots of Code Reds A64 Tweaker for both the Gskill LE and the Corsair when they are both at the same speeds? I'd like to see what difference accounts for Corsairs small advantage in the tests and benches at like for like speed and timings.

Thanks.

GazC: I will try to get that done in about 3-4 days. Family stuff in next 2 days will make it very difficult to do prior.

Okay, thanks. I look forward to seeing what the difference is.

YES PLZ :D

The DFI at least... haven't heard much about the Fatality series except for that AA8 but that one uses DDR II so doesn't count ;p



nice review btw :)

ty kirstos. I will update article once I can get my mits on the DFI NF4.

Fatality AN8 is A64 DDR1 if I'm not mistaken :)

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...:en&q=abit+AN8

OCed my G.Skill and it behaves exactly the same as the Corsair. I'm stuck at 230mz. I can drop the multiplier to 11 and raise the FSB to 251 (2761) but anything over 2.8 with the CPU and I get errors in Memtest.
I either have an "unlucky" cpu with an average memory controller, or the chipset of the A8V is holding me back like Jnav was talking about in the article.
No, I'm not going to replace the MB because I'm happy with what I have and don't want to start over from scratch.

From reading other message threads on the A8N, I'm noticing the same pattern that happened with the A8V. The A8N needs a bios update, and is not the best Ocer. Some do good, some are stuck. I predict Asus will come out with a Rev 2 of the A8N just like they did with the A8V.

Excellent review indeed, I joined the forum just to reply!

I've been hunting down reviews and benches of how A64 s939 performs extensively, and you've summarized quite well how it all scales up.

I'm buying a new setup right now, and am going to buy a NF4 mainboard (maybe 2: Asus & DFI), so I'm really interested in seeing some benches of those (and future) memories on the NF4 chipset!

Keep up the good work :)

Stores where we can buy these sticks?

all except the centon can be found at:

UK:
pc-memory-upgrade
over-clock
overclockers

BE:
hofline
bytesatwork

Any joy?

I'll try to get to that tonight!
It will be in a slightly different system though

I know it's a roundup for samsung tccd ram, but wouldn't it be handy to include a pair of normal pc3200 3-3-3-8 ram?

I need to buy 2*512 asap, but I can't figure out if it's worth the buy. I currently have a p4 setup, but i'm planning to buy the best price/quality setup in q4, but only when my current setup can't handle the things that i need my rig for, and gaming isn't a priority. A rock stable, fast, silent, well equipped rig is. Especially used for CCE encoding/photoshop/databased acocunting.

Dualcore procs / ddr2 / pci-x , I currently have no need for it, but the key question is:
Will this ram be outdated within the next 3 years?

Anything can happen in three long years; buying a ready made unit from Dell or HP would be the way to go if they meet your requirements.

I think it's safe to say that DDR I won't be found a high performance pc 3years from now.


about tccd is it worth it? if you're not going to overclock, no :)

I'm not gonna break records, but for example my 2.6 has been running at 3.4 for over 2 year now, the difference with current intel setups is neglible. but this ram runs at 5/4 divider with 3-3-3-8 timings. And since i need more ram anyway, i think it's better to buy better ram to run at 1/1. This won't be noticeable, but on the a64 it wil be.

I am planning to do the same with my future rig, maximum oc without any mods.
Current amd setups are ideal for this, and that's the tought behind it.

Budget wise it isn't a problem, but i really don't want to waste 300 euro when it can be done with 150 euro.

au contraire; you will notice a larger increase in performance on your P4 rig by running ram at 1:1 with tight timings then on the A64, the P4 gets more of a boost with the extra memory bandwidth then the A64.

I recently got some TCCD equiped memory and I'm not impressed on the A64.

it depends on what will impress you:)
the real asset of TCCD memory in my humble opinion is the wide availibity, low voltage requirements and ablility to run CL2 2-2-x 1T at 200Mhz.

compared to CL3 4-4-8 it can make 10-20FPS difference in games: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2330&p=4

"First and foremost Half Life 2 does appear to be rather dependent on memory bandwidth, but it is also quite appreciative of low latency memory as well. If you're wondering whether being able to run memory at low timings and high clock speeds is important, when it comes to Half Life 2 performance it is."

ok I'm not impressed by it's performance on A64 but it is good ram for those that don't feel at ease with higher voltages.

actually, TCCD performs better on A64 then on P4...

I guess it's a secret then? Oh well, it was a good review besides that. I hope Corsair are looking after you ;)

Oh well, pretty demanding guy; as if people are sitting down doing nothing but to wait for your order.:D

Smilie face doesn't hide your real manner; rather poor attitude.

Added:

Should/could have asked "Any update? Please".

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I'ts just that the review has been up for a while and it doesn't take five minutes to swap a couple of sticks of ram and run them at the same speed does it.

Again, I apologise for bringing my "poor" attitude to your forum (the smiley wasn't meant to hide anything, btw). You are they guys who post these reviews and I realise that it takes time to do the whole thing. But what I requested takes five minutes. I had a genuine curiosity as to what the difference was and have asked several times for an explaination. I'm really sorry my patience run-out before you could get around to sattisfying the curiosity of one of your readers.

I don't have a poor attitude and I'm sorry you think so and I don't command anyone, or expect too. If you guys really have too much on your plate you could send the Gskill and the corsair my way and I'll find out for myself, it'd only take five minutes and then I could share the info that you don't have time to share and then return the ram to you. ;)

Still, no harm done. Eh?

Explain "it's a secret" and "hope Corsair are looking after you".
What are you trying to say?

Nice review