Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 M0 Stepping CPU Review - Page 2

Sidney · 18th October 2007, 04:49

Interesting indeed, especially it came from China with $RMB 420 price stated in the article.

Exchange rate as of late RMB$ 7.60 to US$1.

18th October 2007, 10:41

If my math works out correctly, that's 420/7.6 = 55.26 USD.

That doesn't seem to be the same proc as the recently released E4600, nor the same line of procs as the one you just reviewed, does it?

20th October 2007, 03:30

SL9R5....I think not. Sidney, I think you're trying to mess with me.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/

"sSpec Number: SL9R5

(example = SL77R)Product Order Code

The sSpec number entered does not match an Intel® processor. Please check that the number was entered correctly and try again."

24th October 2007, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

...Intel E4500 is with new M0 stepping rather than previous L2 stepping. The new stepping has lower range of CPU voltage (Vcore). Since not many reviews are out with this particular processor, I thought it would be interesting to find out how the new stepping differs from the old.
http //www madshrimps be/gotoartik.php?articID=629

Wow! Great article, had to join up to both say thank you & to ask some questions. I was aware of pin modding but I didn't know V-Core could be safely manipulated that way. I got nostalgic and built a system using a Gigabyte 81865GME-775-RH board it's AGP-so I can use my X800XT all in wonder card & a C2D with old DDR memory. Bought a E4400 (1.35V) and I thought I would get a little bit better overclock than I am (only FSB is adjustable).
Are the new MO stepping & L2 stepping both compatible with these pin mods?
Are the new MO default voltages lower than 1.35V?
Are these valid/correct pin mods as well for E2160, E2180, E2200, and the E6600, E6750?
----------------------------------------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney

Enjoy

- source:
http //forums vr-zone com/showthread.php?t=188787

The links in the VR-Zone & the XML spread sheet are great!

Sidney · 24th October 2007, 17:41

We did that with E4400 also.

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=610

And, the use of kitchen alum foil and AS5 for "glue" or "hold down".

ASRock ConRoe 1333-DVI/H and Intel E2140 Budget System Review

Sidney · 29th October 2007, 17:05

The use of Notebook Hardware Control is nice but it is not without flaw on desktop. It disables Windows XP power scheme 'powercfg' in windows registry. It took me hours to find this out when powercfg locks on only "scheme 0" other power schemes 1,2,3,4 and 5 are disabled.

It came to my attention when WinDVD power scheme could not be used.

16th November 2007, 12:34

Hey all -

I preformed an OC to 266 FSB and it did not pass stability test (blue screen). I came here and got the volt spreadsheet. When I put in my
stock voltage (1.185) and my desired voltage it shows me that picture...

I connect the ones it says connect and I hide the ones that are 'hidden land' with some tape right? When I tried that, it booted but the FSB was back down to 200mhz.

I just undid all mods and it passed stability...

Can anyone help me?

jmke · 16th November 2007, 13:16

so after you did the mod, and removed it, you can now OC to 266 with stability?

16th November 2007, 13:25

No..Sorry the wording is off...

It is stable at its stock speed of 200mhz.

When I did an OC to 266 it got unstable, so I tried the volt mod and it
just booted back at 200mhz...

So I just undid all mods and it is stock again.

I would like to keep it at 266mhz stable but I need a small voltage increase to do so. I got that spreadsheet (earlier in this thread) and I followed instructions for an increase. What I need to know is, what does 'Hidden Land' mean? On the sheet it shows pins to be connected and then some maroon colored pins called 'hidden land'. Do i just cover those up with some electrical tape?

Edit - I would really like to see a picture of the chip with the mod done or a schmatic of the mod so I know im doing the right thing. The spreadsheet does not have a 1.185 volt setting either

Sidney · 16th November 2007, 16:28

When you said the spreadsheet did not have 1.185 volt (standard or default), you did not read it correctly. There are 4 workbooks in the Excel file; all possible default voltages are listed in the standard workbook (use one that is closest) There is no way you would have the correct pin mod if you don't put in the correct default voltage.

Yes, hidden = taped or insulated.

It works, you just have to read spreadsheet carefully and use the macro correctly.

Default voltage selectionm, your 1.185 is there.

Your default 1.185 raised to 1.35 Pin Mod.

18th October 2007, 04:49	#11
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	Interesting indeed, especially it came from China with $RMB 420 price stated in the article. Exchange rate as of late RMB$ 7.60 to US$1. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II Last edited by Sidney : 18th October 2007 at 04:51.

24th October 2007, 17:41	#15
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	We did that with E4400 also. http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=610 And, the use of kitchen alum foil and AS5 for "glue" or "hold down". ASRock ConRoe 1333-DVI/H and Intel E2140 Budget System Review __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II Last edited by Sidney : 24th October 2007 at 17:44.

29th October 2007, 17:05	#16
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	The use of Notebook Hardware Control is nice but it is not without flaw on desktop. It disables Windows XP power scheme 'powercfg' in windows registry. It took me hours to find this out when powercfg locks on only "scheme 0" other power schemes 1,2,3,4 and 5 are disabled. It came to my attention when WinDVD power scheme could not be used. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

16th November 2007, 13:16	#18
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	so after you did the mod, and removed it, you can now OC to 266 with stability? __________________

16th November 2007, 13:25	#19
Chrisv006 Posts: n/a	No..Sorry the wording is off... It is stable at its stock speed of 200mhz. When I did an OC to 266 it got unstable, so I tried the volt mod and it just booted back at 200mhz... So I just undid all mods and it is stock again. I would like to keep it at 266mhz stable but I need a small voltage increase to do so. I got that spreadsheet (earlier in this thread) and I followed instructions for an increase. What I need to know is, what does 'Hidden Land' mean? On the sheet it shows pins to be connected and then some maroon colored pins called 'hidden land'. Do i just cover those up with some electrical tape? Edit - I would really like to see a picture of the chip with the mod done or a schmatic of the mod so I know im doing the right thing. The spreadsheet does not have a 1.185 volt setting either Last edited by Chrisv006 : 16th November 2007 at 13:37. Reason: add info

18th October 2007, 10:41	#12
Reefa_Madness Posts: n/a	If my math works out correctly, that's 420/7.6 = 55.26 USD. That doesn't seem to be the same proc as the recently released E4600, nor the same line of procs as the one you just reviewed, does it?

20th October 2007, 03:30	#13
Reefa_Madness Posts: n/a	SL9R5....I think not. Sidney, I think you're trying to mess with me. http://processorfinder.intel.com/ "sSpec Number: SL9R5 (example = SL77R)Product Order Code The sSpec number entered does not match an Intel® processor. Please check that the number was entered correctly and try again."

16th November 2007, 12:34	#17
Chrisv006 Posts: n/a	Hey all - I preformed an OC to 266 FSB and it did not pass stability test (blue screen). I came here and got the volt spreadsheet. When I put in my stock voltage (1.185) and my desired voltage it shows me that picture... I connect the ones it says connect and I hide the ones that are 'hidden land' with some tape right? When I tried that, it booted but the FSB was back down to 200mhz. I just undid all mods and it passed stability... Can anyone help me?

16th November 2007, 16:28	#20
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	When you said the spreadsheet did not have 1.185 volt (standard or default), you did not read it correctly. There are 4 workbooks in the Excel file; all possible default voltages are listed in the standard workbook (use one that is closest) There is no way you would have the correct pin mod if you don't put in the correct default voltage. Yes, hidden = taped or insulated. It works, you just have to read spreadsheet carefully and use the macro correctly. Default voltage selectionm, your 1.185 is there. Your default 1.185 raised to 1.35 Pin Mod. Attached Thumbnails __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II Last edited by Sidney : 16th November 2007 at 16:47.

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