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jmke 24th December 2005 00:17

Heatsinks Roundup Q4 2005 Holiday Edition
 
We are proud to present you with our last heatsink roundup of 2005. Featuring the latest offerings from Arctic, Scythe, Silverstone, Sharkoon and newcomer Noctua. We compare them to the best out there in 3 different test configurations.

http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=384

Rutar 24th December 2005 10:56

something must be wrong, I can't see how the regular Freezer gets better performance than the pro

I'll see what I can get done with mine on the x2 4400+ :)

piotke 24th December 2005 11:15

Keep the fan speed in mind... And the enviroment and ..

Rutar 24th December 2005 11:17

Both were at 100%, I guess margin of error.

jmke 24th December 2005 12:32

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Originally posted by Rutar
something must be wrong, I can't see how the regular Freezer gets better performance than the pro
I spent days verifying those results.. as I'm with you on this one, the results look odd. However in the test setup I used I could not get different results, the normal freezer marginly outperformed the Pro version.


here's what the Managing Director R&D of AC had to say about this

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I cannot explain your results. In our tests on test dummies as well as in a real computer system, the Pro version performs definitely better.

Your case shows how important the environment is. Since ATX doesn't specify the place of the CPU, the alignment of the components on the mainboard, the airflow and so on exactly, an integrated solution is not possible. This means that in every computer, you will receive a little bit different results.
Solution: BTX with a total thermal solution. One team developed all the coolers, fans, chassis and PSU. This way we can assure a perfect "team work" of all the components. This will be the future, not a chassis from A, a PSU from B, a fan from C ...
You also don't buy a car where the engineer of the chassis never heard anything about the engine.

Rutar 24th December 2005 13:08

I have some stock x2 4400+ results now. (2x2.2 GHzs 1 MB cache, 1.33V according to motherboard)

with 1400RPM, it stays nicely at 44° after rising from the idle temp of about 30°.


However, Im using a motherboard which has the CPU nicely in the middle with a lot of air around and the airflow of the 120mm exhaust and the 120mm PSU fan helping as well.

jmke 24th December 2005 13:13

n/o Rutar, but those performance numbers mean practically nothing :) (all we learn is that your PC is not overheating)

Rutar 24th December 2005 13:27

Well, it means it works even with a slower moving fan =P, now I got to find a way to silence the x1800XT :(


I'm aware it's impossible to do a comparison to the review results.

Sidney 24th December 2005 13:28

Size of graphic card plays a role in case ventilation. The bigger it gets the more it negatively impact case air flow.

As for as BTX form factor is concern in having a fix CPU location; Intel boards (ATX) have always been in a fix position ..... making it irrelevant in the explaination.

jmke 24th December 2005 13:39

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Originally posted by lazyman
..... making it irrelevant in the explaination.
but relevant for the roundup and the results as this is tested on A64 :)

but I get your comment on the BTX note, since AMD won't adopt to it any time soon.

but having one company provide case&cpu cooling will (hopefully) garantuee optimised airflow

@Rutar, at 2.2 with 1.33v you can run that fan at 5v for sure:)

Rutar 24th December 2005 14:49

The idea of AC having the entire cooling solution already fails at the PSU. Todays PSU needs vary so much from the cheap Internet PC to the SLI Dualcore setup that it's pointless. to put in a fixed PSU but it's clear that the dominant design for PSUs is a single fan at the bottom of the PSU right now, which is logical considering it allows the biggest fan and keeps the fan inside the case so less noise gets outside.


@jmke, Motherboard goes up to 1.75V so I'll overclock it once the MX1 is burned in :)

provoko 26th December 2005 17:40

That was the best article I've ever read on heatsink fans for cpus. It was so good I went to register just to post this, haha.

You should make it the standard to test with an overclocked computer and a non overclocked comp when it comes to testing HSFs. Always testing .2-.3 volts away from stock, and measuring the heat around the cpu. So informative.

Thank you and great job.

jmke 26th December 2005 17:53

thank you so much for these kinds words, we aim to please.

jmke 5th January 2006 01:37

When will this "stock" AMD A64 cooler be bundled with all of their CPU's? :)

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These coolers are now bundled with all of AMD's high-end Opteron processors, including all of their dual-core Opteron models. As you can clearly see, they do not have the appearance of a "freebie" retail cooling solution, with heatpipes protruding from the sides of the thin heatsink fins. Rather, this cooler looks more like an expensive third party cooler for overclockers.
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...2C1B7C4DECB7BA

Sidney 5th January 2006 05:22

I will most definitely try my Opty 165 using stock cooling first.:)

jmke 5th January 2006 12:41

it's the 2xx series only apparantly? can you check?

Rutar 5th January 2006 13:46

no, I got one with my 4400+ as well

it looks a bit different, the fan is deeper but it's still only a 80mm one despite the fact a 92mm would fit it nicely


I still say they should let AC design the stock HSFs. That would make them cheap and quiet.

piotke 5th January 2006 15:27

A64 FX series have the same (or look a like). I've seen it at Gamers place some time ago.

jmke 5th January 2006 16:10

should get my mittens on one of them


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