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jmke 15th June 2004 00:12

Chaintech Geforce FX 5900XT SA5900X Review
 
Chaintech has a very competitively priced video card in its products range which offers a great price/performance ratio. Just how great? We ran it through our benchmark mill so we could let you know!

Sidney 15th June 2004 00:53

One step closer for me to Explore the game world with a so called $170 "budget" card.

Well, newegg does not carry it yet. Just saved $170 for another day.;)

jmke 15th June 2004 01:00

it's a budget when compared to the FX5950 Ultra or the upcoming videocards which will cost you double, but won't always give you double the performance, the new generation of cards really shines in the FSAA/AF tests I've seen!

jmke 15th June 2004 01:02

Quote:

Originally posted by lazyman
Well, newegg does not carry it yet. Just saved $170 for another day.;)
Here one for $169
http://store.yahoo.com/buyxg/vc125127.html

Sidney 12th October 2004 18:21

Got the sucker in today.:)

Play time.:D

Sidney 12th October 2004 20:56

465/765 GPU Core temps idle 39C room temp 24C; load temp 52C after 3 runs 3DMark03 with score of 6168; 3DMark01 SE 16927.

Gamer 12th October 2004 21:31

3000 points less then a Ti4600 :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7972468

jmke 12th October 2004 22:56

with a close to 3ghz A64... 3DMark01 is all about CPU&SYS, less about GPU...

good clocks there on the FX Lazyman; but do bench a bit with different clockspeed, as sometimes higher != better

Sidney 12th October 2004 23:15

Quote:

good clocks there on the FX Lazyman; but do bench a bit with different clockspeed, as sometimes higher != better
Still playing with it; the CHEAP man gets a "new" toy.:)

Toying with the temps now; with/without CV (those 2x40mm) 56C without.

Have not updated the latest driver yet.

Sidney 13th October 2004 00:26

Without CV. both Core and Memory speeds reset themself. Have you seen this?

Sidney 13th October 2004 03:02

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When overclocking my stock 5900 I noticed something unusual. Unlike all the other cards I have successfully overclocked, this one would not lockup, or develop any artifacts as I upped the core clock speed. I could go up to 500mhz or more, but my benchmark scores would get worse. The card was clocking faster, but getting slower! From what I understand the new nVidia drivers use the thermal diode on the GPU to monitor the temps and will "underclock" the card in case of overheating. I thought that the GPU core had allot of speed left in it, but the drivers were killing the performance by throttling back. I was actually looking for a way to disable the temperature monitoring feature of the drivers, when I came across the "flash" method we are discussing here.

I will interject a bit of my own theory here. I believe that nVidia has their driver throttling back the GPU speed at a lower temp on the 5900 than they allow on the 5950u. If this is correct, the 5950u card is allowed to run at higher temps, and the drivers will not throttle back until much later. Alternatively, the driver may look at the core clock speed and adjust performance based on the amount of overclock. I suspect both scenarios might be used together. The 5950u cards do have what appear to be larger, more efficient heatsinks. The heat protection feature most certainly will allow a cooler card to run at a higher clock speed with greater performance. This is something to consider, but we are protected against overheating none the less.
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/guides/5900_Flash_Mod/

This explains my encounter with resetting OC.

jmke 13th October 2004 06:50

my tests

Quote:

3DMark2001

390/700: 13576
450/750: 13919
465/800: 12563
if you flash it with the correct bios you can bypass the protection :)

Sidney 13th October 2004 16:56

3DMark2001
461/770: 16993

3DMark03
same: 6303

Repeated scores are very close to each other with panel close; GPU Core idle 38C; but it's hard to read the stress temp it may have dropped a couple degrees when I get to it after the runs. It never went over 54C.

I guess it is good enough. Keep my warranty instead of flashing.:)

jmke 13th October 2004 17:05

you can flash back:)

Sidney 13th October 2004 17:33

True that I can flash back; wondering what is the highest attainable for this card.:)

Sidney 13th October 2004 18:37

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A 5900XT will not work because it has 2.8ns memory while the 5950u has 2ns memory, trying to flash an XT to an 5950U will result in permement damage. Now aside from the dark facts, what you will gain out of this
http://forums.devhardware.com/archive/t-25300

Tried it, but it wouldn't save the oldbios ....CRC error. Found the above. Guess I'm not taking the chance. The card is running fantistic as it stands now.:)

jmke 13th October 2004 19:10

I was talking about flashing the card to another FX5900XT bios which does not speed throttle the gpu :)

Sidney 13th October 2004 23:24

Loaded up the latest driver which sucks in OCing; 300 points lower 3DMark03. Couldn't get over 460/750. Back using the older driver.

Couldn't find other FX5900XT bios that would do the "thing". Right now it is not temp as it never goes over 55C; got to be the limiter of memory and core in the Bios.

jmke 13th October 2004 23:31

no other FX5900XT bios' ? got to be kidding:

http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...er&filecatid=4

:)

Sidney 14th October 2004 06:32

Tried Albatron and BFG no luck. Won't do it.

Anyway, this card kicks *** for the money. I have not experienced throttling back after two days of fussing around with 461/770 setting with 3DMark03 63XX and 3DMark01 SE 169XX. With this kind of scores, it's well into Ultra and 9800XT territory.

Played some Doom3 (finally), COD, CS with high to Xhigh settings. Excellent card for the price like Jmke said in the review.:)

Now what should I get next that is similar in performance/value ratio.

Sidney 27th October 2004 22:02

Flashed the Chaintech to 5950Ultra.;)

jmke 27th October 2004 22:03

any artifacts ingame?

Sidney 27th October 2004 22:10

Trying to find the "right" spots; 475/800 no artifacts.

Sidney 27th October 2004 22:20

Locking up ..... :shrug:

Meaning no improvement; just for show and no go.:D

Sidney 27th October 2004 23:02

What is causing "3DMark display window lost focus"?
Never seen this before until I flashed the BIOS.

Reversed back to original.:D
No gain with Ultra bios. can't say I haven't tried.;)

Sidney 28th October 2004 19:19

HELP!!!
Reloaded with original BIOS; the Lost focus error repeats, only with 3DMark03. I could run 3DMark01SE, 3DMark05 and games (Doom3) for hours without prolbem.

Only happens with 3DMark03, any suggestions?:D

jmke 28th October 2004 20:33

what is lost focus error?

Sidney 28th October 2004 20:59

3DMark03 stops running bench marking and prompt the error message -

jmke 28th October 2004 21:01

are you running F@H ?

http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17274


more solutions http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...us%22+3DMark03


it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue though

Sidney 28th October 2004 21:06

Yep, that's the problem. Strange, and it's random.

No F@H.

jmke 28th October 2004 21:16

reinstall vidcard drivers, reinstall 3DMark03

be sure to use a detonator destroyer to remove all traces of the current driver

Sidney 28th October 2004 22:06

Did all you suggested ..... two loops 3DMark03 without the error.:ws:
This is done with BGF bios. Now back to ocing and see what happens.:)

jmke 28th October 2004 22:21

flashing the BIOS can screw up the driver install, that's what I read in this thread very large thread: http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...&threadid=3785

Sidney 28th October 2004 22:56

With the 2.8ns memory I didn't think it would go any farther. The BGF FX5900XT BIOS has higher Core and Mem setting at default giving me 480/780 without backing off after bench marking.

Also, the Leadtek FX5950 works also but I've to back down to 800 mem which doesn't give any higher score.

Sidney 20th November 2004 08:16

When all is said and done using BGF BIOS
480 core / 785 memory
Doom3 timedemo demo1
SA5900XT 1024*768 at high 43.5 FPS

abgsiddiq 15th January 2005 11:39

;) using BFg bios also. max clock 480/777. the ram cannot 780. thx for the tips guys.

Sidney 26th July 2005 03:06

GPU temp went up close to 90°C ......
Fan broke in half at the center of the fan hub.

Super Glue came to the rescue....

Nice to have an external temp probe attached SF-609 :)

Sidney 27th July 2005 02:10

Quote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Chaintech Support [mailto:support@chaintechusa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:53 PM
To: lazyman
Subject: RE: FX5900XT

Sidney,

The fan will be sent shortly to your mailing address below.

Chaintech Support
I cannot ask for more in terms of customer service and support - within 24 hours reply :)


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