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jmke 14th April 2004 19:06

Scientists Create "Water" That Isn
 
:grin:

Sidney 14th April 2004 19:19

I read the news yesterday. Costs about $30-40 per square foot. WATER COOLING will go OEM if it works.

Sidney 14th April 2004 19:28

The $30-40 cost is for fire protection cost base on square footage.

Where does the 49C boiling point show?

piotke 14th April 2004 19:28

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Originally posted by lazyman
I read the news yesterday. Costs about $30-40 per square foot. WATER COOLING will go OEM if it works.
not if this is true:

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Stunning, although it seems to have a boiling point of 49.2°C ?

jmke 14th April 2004 19:33

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Originally posted by lazyman
Where does the 49C boiling point show?

sorry, comes from /.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/14/1621235

The official name for Sapphire is actually Novec 1230. Read about it here (PDF).
http://www.yorbamicro.com/stuff/Sapp...ec1230-FAQ.pdf

PDF is down. but this is the data

Chemical Formula CF3CF2C(O)CF(CF3)2
Molecular Weight 316.04
Boiling Point @ 1 atm 49.2°C (120.6°F)
Freezing Point -108.0°C (-162.4°F)
Critical Temperature 168.7°C (335.6°F)
Critical Pressure 18.65 bar (270.44 psi)
Critical Volume 494.5 cc/mole (0.0251 ft3/lbm)
Critical Density 639.1 kg/m3 (39.91 lbm/ft3)
Density, Sat. Liquid 1.60 g/ml (99.9 lbm/ft3)
Density, Gas @ 1 atm 0.0136 g/ml (0.851 lbm/ft3)
Specific Volume, Gas @ 1 atm 0.0733 m3/kg (1.175 ft3/lb)
Specific Heat, Liquid 1.103 kJ/kg°C (0.2634 BTU/lb°F)
Specific Heat, Vapor @ 1 atm 0.891 kJ/kg°C (0.2127 BTU/lb°F)
Heat of Vaporization @ boiling point 88.0 kJ/kg (37.9 BTU/lb)
Liquid Viscosity @ 0°C/25°C 0.56/0.39 centistokes
Solubility of Water in Novec 1230 Fluid <0.001 % by wt.
Vapor Pressure 0.404 bar (5.85 psig)
Relative Dielectric Strength, 1 atm (N2=1.0) 2.3

Xploited Titan 14th April 2004 19:36

Such products are 'common'... M3 has invented such stuff before... Problem is the price and the quantities in which you need to buy... And I think it's suited to cool your computer down, even though the liquid needs to be cooled too.

jmke 14th April 2004 19:49

M3 water destroys a book.

Xploited Titan 14th April 2004 19:56

Indeed, but you can put your computer in it :D And it works... :D

Xploited Titan 14th April 2004 19:57

Btw, who's gonna put a book under water :^D (exception made for schoolbooks, which are made to be destroyed asap :D )

Sidney 14th April 2004 20:15

The low boiling point within a sealed environment will act like heat pipe effect, won't it?

From liquid to vapor; well I will do more research on it.

Reaction to "H2O" ...

[quote]who's gonna put a book under water [quote]

Unintentional ...

There are important papers to be kept safe ....

We can always laugh at anything ..... not knowing we are being laughed at.

jmke 14th April 2004 20:20

I would keep my most secret documents in a fish tank, let those thieves search the house :p

piotke 14th April 2004 20:35

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Originally posted by lazyman
The low boiling point within a sealed environment will act like heat pipe effect, won't it?

From liquid to vapor; well I will do more research on it.

Theoretically yes. but due to the boiling process, the air that's in the water comes together, and makes bubbles ? The water in Belgium does at least :)

So there's coming air into the circuit, pump becomes louder.

Xploited Titan 14th April 2004 20:35

The cat's litterbox is better :^D

jmke 14th April 2004 20:35

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Originally posted by Xploited Titan
The cat's litterbox is better :^D
I'm sure the docs will remain "unharmed"..

Xploited Titan 14th April 2004 20:45

Almost as new :D But, hey, you don't need a cat to go with it... ;) Just take a cat's litter box, some used cat food cans to create the illusion you've got one, and here ya go, nobody's gonna look at it :o

Sidney 14th April 2004 21:10

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So there's coming air into the circuit, pump becomes louder.
Hopefully the pump may not be needed; similar to phase change. What matters would be the heat transfer properties. Well, we'll see.

I have no pussy hence no litter box.

piotke 14th April 2004 21:57

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Originally posted by lazyman
Hopefully the pump may not be needed; similar to phase change. What matters would be the heat transfer properties. Well, we'll see.
Didn't think of that, might be a good idea.

I heard once, that there was already made some kind of heatsink, with in the base, little channels. Their they put some kind of liquid, which had a low boiling point, and when the sink was "on temperature" some kind of faster heat stranfer started...

jmke 14th April 2004 21:59

uhm.. check TTIC heatsinks in "on the testbench" forum:)
those have a heatpipe in the center!


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