Intel Nehalem, Bloomfield has 8MB of cache - Page 2

Sidney · 25th March 2008, 17:41

I don't care, I need the fastest, the most of everything in my processor. This is the only way I could beat Jimmy, my next door neighbor. He isn't a smart guy but he did better in school than I; he got a better job and constantly get promoted. He even has more than one girl friend.

I need the best CPU so I could get ahead of him this time. By the way, would this CPU get me doing my Excel chart better? it is harder to learn from my Q6700 because of the slow speed, insufficient cache and high latency.

25th March 2008, 18:01

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Originally Posted by geoffrey

To bad they forgot to mention clock rates

Still, at this moment dual core is still favorable over Quads, unless software dramatically changes over the following half year I don't think many home users will need it, maybe in 2 years or so... Theoretically, single core apps may be faster, but will you notice the difference compared with the E8x00 which is doing all ready very good? If so, where?

Yeah, doesn't really mean anything as it is presented, but still was interesting to read.

Be more specific with your question... I think almost no users would feel a difference in system responsiveness between a dual and a quad. But I certainly as heck would notice the performance increase because I use all four cores.

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Originally Posted by Sidney

I don't care, I need the fastest, the most of everything in my processor. This is the only way I could beat Jimmy, my next door neighbor. He isn't a smart guy but he did better in school than I; he got a better job and constantly get promoted. He even has more than one girl friend.

I need the best CPU so I could get ahead of him this time. By the way, would this CPU get me doing my Excel chart better? it is harder to learn from my Q6700 because of the slow speed, insufficient cache and high latency.

Frankly, your mocking post is simply insulting. I'd expect more from a reviewer.

You also make the mistake of assuming I am interested in Nehalem because I want the best of the best or want bragging rights. Perhaps next time you should consider that some people are interested in the progress of technology just for fun, and find it interesting to speculate on. Nothing so petty as oneupmanship or "my computer is better than yours".

jmke · 25th March 2008, 18:21

I don't think that was the exact meaning of his post Kougar

more towards AMD/Intel pushing things towards multithreads which doesn't serve 99% of apps used by most people... at all.

geoffrey · 25th March 2008, 18:25

The technology upgrade is indeed very interesting, brings the home users closer to ray tracing rendering machines

jmke · 25th March 2008, 18:36

until you read the thoughts of those people in the 3D industry... John Carmack doesn't see raytracing to become "the" way to do things... not now, not in the future. It's not just GPU/CPU limitation, but limitations of Raytracing itself.. anyway search for his latest interview

Carmack Speaks On Ray Tracing, Future id Engines

thorgal · 25th March 2008, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Kougar

Frankly, your mocking post is simply insulting. I'd expect more from a reviewer.

You also make the mistake of assuming I am interested in Nehalem because I want the best of the best or want bragging rights. Perhaps next time you should consider that some people are interested in the progress of technology just for fun, and find it interesting to speculate on. Nothing so petty as oneupmanship or "my computer is better than yours".

I'm quite sure that Sidney wasn't personal Kougar, just speaking "in general". I for one am a bit like you : interested in progress because I like it, and to have some fun benchmarking and competing against others... the amount of money I spend having this fun however...

Sidney · 25th March 2008, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Kougar

Frankly, your mocking post is simply insulting. I'd expect more from a reviewer.

You also make the mistake of assuming I am interested in Nehalem because I want the best of the best or want bragging rights. Perhaps next time you should consider that some people are interested in the progress of technology just for fun, and find it interesting to speculate on. Nothing so petty as oneupmanship or "my computer is better than yours".

I have a neigbor named Jimmy.

Jimmy is 72 years old. We still have to talk about how to use the CPU in a practical sense for everyday regular Joe = sidney.

I like to know what it can benefit me using Excel, Words .... etc. Okay, I used to run MRP with mover 20,000 SKUs in PC environment with a server running merely 1Gz as late as 2001; run time = 32 minutes. I love to hear from IT point of view the benefit more so than regular users.

Give me something to justfy the purchase and be able to convince my boss to spend the money.

That, my friend is how I would write the review.

jmke · 25th March 2008, 19:43

oh for business these CPUs are golden, stick a pair of those 6 cores in a 1/2U server, install VMWare ESX and you got yourself a dedicated Domain controller, or two, file servers, application servers, exchange server. And this all with one physical machine!

geoffrey · 25th March 2008, 22:06

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Originally Posted by jmke

until you read the thoughts of those people in the 3D industry... John Carmack doesn't see raytracing to become "the" way to do things... not now, not in the future. It's not just GPU/CPU limitation, but limitations of Raytracing itself.. anyway search for his latest interview

Carmack Speaks On Ray Tracing, Future id Engines

Yeah, the future is indeed still too unclear to say that Ray Tracing is the future of 3D gaming.

Everybody has different idea's, the console industry may have a large influence on the future of pc gaming, most money is gained there (+10M PS3 sold since recently, even more XBOX 360 units). That are lots of AMD/NVIDIA GPU's. If Intel could demonstrate a good working console GPU, things might get problematic for NVIDIA. MS has XBOX and DirectX API, it will be very interesting to see what road they will follow.

Sidney · 26th March 2008, 04:04

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Originally Posted by jmke

oh for business these CPUs are golden, stick a pair of those 6 cores in a 1/2U server, install VMWare ESX and you got yourself a dedicated Domain controller, or two, file servers, application servers, exchange server. And this all with one physical machine!

Unfortunately in business, the IT guy won't just stick the CPU into the server. He ain't that stupid to begin with. A new package server from Sun or Oracle will run into the thousands. Bottom line still is "what do I gain from productivity point of view?".

I could see in a smaller scale particularly in the US where distribution of products become more than manufacturing; EDI transaction in the Mass Market using smaller servers for EDI functionality covering ASN, B/L, etc with WalMart, BestBuy, Target ...... might benefit. However, most these transactions are done at the same time of the day limited to 2-3 hours period which is limited by the transmission speed more so than CPU.

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25th March 2008, 18:21	#13
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	I don't think that was the exact meaning of his post Kougar more towards AMD/Intel pushing things towards multithreads which doesn't serve 99% of apps used by most people... at all. __________________

25th March 2008, 18:36	#15
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	until you read the thoughts of those people in the 3D industry... John Carmack doesn't see raytracing to become "the" way to do things... not now, not in the future. It's not just GPU/CPU limitation, but limitations of Raytracing itself.. anyway search for his latest interview Carmack Speaks On Ray Tracing, Future id Engines __________________

25th March 2008, 19:43	#18
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	oh for business these CPUs are golden, stick a pair of those 6 cores in a 1/2U server, install VMWare ESX and you got yourself a dedicated Domain controller, or two, file servers, application servers, exchange server. And this all with one physical machine! __________________

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geoffrey [M] Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,127	The technology upgrade is indeed very interesting, brings the home users closer to ray tracing rendering machines