Intel 925XE chipset and 3.46GHz Extreme Edition CPU
 

AMD has moved on but Intel's top-level performance has remained
largely the same, so whilst I'm a fan of all the good aspects of 925X/XE
chipsets, I find it hard to recommend it as a performance platform when
the Extreme Edition is still playing catchup, most notably in gaming.
Cast aside any company-specific favouritisms and ask yourself
objectively what you would rather have if money was not an issue - an
AMD FX-55/nForce4/DDR1 2-2-2-5 memory setup or 3.46GHz Extreme
Edition/i925XE/DDR2?

Link:
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD04OTg=

no extra power for gaming.
yeah.
so that means my assumption on a 3ghz a64 lasting till mid of next year will be quite correct :)

Remark from [H]

Glad the statement supports my theory on W/C ...... for quiet computing go W/C, but remember to install some devices to increase air movement ....... hahaha ..... when the tree sounds the wind blows.

Sound = noise = opposite of QUIET.;)

Theory 2
When a processor is willing .... high vcore is unnecessary.

this cpu is not intended for people who want a "quiet" system ;)

No high performance CPU is intended for Quiet System; otherwise, there will be no heatsink reviews in the last four years.:)

oh I don't know about that, I can see jmke still doing heatsink roundups trying to find the quitest cooling fan+sink combo at acceptable speeds :)

Invalid statements.:)

off course, if you don't take the context in account ...

ah darn, I meant to say at acceptable temperature earlier on :grum:

Where did you read the New P4 processor and chipset is not intended for quiet system to begin with?

You are making a statement base on your feeling and assumption rather than facts.

Intel and AMD have never planned on making ANY processor for quiet computing. The low power processors are aimed at notebook; low power = longer battery life. The by-product becomes low heat output. Never do they plan on making processor for overclocking; it is the result of improved production yield.

here:
so allow me to say:
ok, allow me to refrase:
in my humble opinion, this cpu is not intended for operation in a quiet setup, this cpu is intended for the overclockers (this I canunderstand), braggers (for obvious reasons) and nitwits (because it's the latest (not necessarely the greatest)).
I can only agree with you here :)

offtopic:

hey no fair, you can edit here!

:p

I was addressing the quote from [H], which is valid. Intel processors are running hot in all new releases. Despite some of the W/C users claiming one of the major reason behind using W/C is low noise level comparing to 100% air cooling. Since water cooling can only be installed in certain areas; CPU, HDD, NB, Vcard, MOSFETS etc, it cannot cool the entire board. Hence, cooling the system relies on "FAN = air movement" = noise.

A radiator is cooled by FAN. The compressor in Vapor chill is cooled by FAN. The only logical solution to quiet computing is to use low power units; no OCing; sound dampening materials.

Another way to reduce noise; is to use electronic noise generator emitting sound wave that cancel the frequency that human hears can hear.=)

that would be VERY cool & quiet :^D

:ws:

I've read about that on hardware.info years ago but I can't remember what company was working on it and I can't ask on their fora because I forgot my login. Maybe time to make a new account and ask about it again? :)

About 20 years ago.:D

well it's about bloody time that they applied it to fit pc use then!!

You are very demanding, aren't you?
This technique was used in hearing industry (regulated by Medical field) to reduce "ringing" effect to some people. It was later used in automotive industry in an attempt to lower noise emission. Both situations are hell alot more important then for some OCing PC users, mind you.
And, why the f_ck didn't you think of it first.

my mommy says you can't say "****" or you will burn in eternal damnation :(

why didn't I think of it? I didn't have too :p

It was already in developement years ago. From what I saw then, it wasn't very costly, it wasn't very big and it was already doing what it was supposed to do. The way I see it, the only things that still needed to be done were optimizing it and producing it. Since I never heard from it again, I suppose the latter became a problem.


now let's bounce the ball back, why didn't' you think of it? :rolleyes:

That was in response to your kind words. Glad you listen to your mama.

I used similar apps 20 years; it requires a microphone or receiver to receive the sound wave from the noise source; a wave generator create signal which might be the opposite of the sine wave. The combination of the source noise and the signal generated producing a sound wave that human ears could not hear. At least, that was the theory.

Since I brought it up, it was only logical that I thought of it. I'm wondering your state of mind.

right now, I'm very tired, slightly drunk and extremely extatic (just got back home from a Rammstein concert :D)

my state of mind when I previously posted: I was agrevated: I found you to be way to easely offended. I found you to have a lack of understanding for my sense of humor or simply not to be able to see that it was intended as humor at all. I found your replies to be aggressive, offensive and childish.

chill dudes!

just look at my worm and by happy!

Thank God you posted a pic with it, otherwise it would have been kind of dubious no? :p

:D

offtopic:
jmke, why is editing disabled in some fora?

it is disabled in webnews & articles forum so people can't backtrack on what they said :)

I almost forgot the pic;)