China tries to bully Google

jmke · 24th March 2010, 13:59

As of Tuesday the site was still not blocked, but most observers believe that the Chinese government will move to block google.cn or google.com.hk. Some are astounded at the move by Google. Former U.S. ambassador to China J. Stapleton Roy, director of the Kissinger Institute on China and the United States at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, states, "I don’t understand their calculation. I do not see how Google could have concluded that they could have faced down the Chinese on a domestic censorship issue."

Google could pay deeply for the move. China is home to over 155 million smart phone users and that number is growing rapidly. Contrary to its previous statements, the Chinese government is now moving to ban Google's Android handsets from China. It is reportedly pressuring telecoms like China Unicom to delay or scrap smart phone offerings that use Google's Android OS. This could prove a boon to Research in Motion and Apple, the latter of which has seen poor sales of its iPhone in China.

http://www.dailytech.com/China+Strik...ticle17954.htm

thorgal · 24th March 2010, 15:55

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Originally Posted by jmke

This could prove a boon to Research in Motion and Apple, the latter of which has seen poor sales of its iPhone in China.

This is a common misconception. iPhone is not selling badly in China at all. What is selling badly is the chinese version of the iphone, the one lacking wifi and some other stuff, which is the only one officially allowed by China mobile. Hong Kong sells millions of "normal" iphones though, and there's a huge black circuit.

jmke · 24th March 2010, 16:00

JFYI China was already blocking many of Google's services. Would not want to live in a country with such a government. Surprised that there haven't been many revolutions... or maybe they are still to come.. a government suppressing their people never ends nicely

http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en

blackened · 24th March 2010, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

JFYI China was already blocking many of Google's services. Would not want to live in a country with such a government. Surprised that there haven't been many revolutions... or maybe they are still to come.. a government suppressing their people never ends nicely

http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en

The problem with an unarmed populous revolting against the government is the fact that they are unarmed, it would just turn into Tienanmen Square times a billion. Thats why my government will literally have to pry my guns out of my cold dead fingers if they ban them.. Also, I love how the Chinese Communist political party's OFFICIAL newspaper claims the US is hacking China..

jmke · 24th March 2010, 18:03

uhm, having guns doesn't make it safer or create a solution

25th March 2010, 12:37

having guns can save your life. there are a lot of bad guys out there and you can fight them off with your stick or logic.

jmke · 25th March 2010, 13:02

or your kid shoots his head of. Or you shoot your neighbor who walks drunken in your backyard, or he brings he bigger gun and kills your wife and kids instead of just taking some money.

...

25th March 2010, 13:27

your stupid!

jmke · 25th March 2010, 13:38

nice comeback.

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Originally Posted by snogler@hotmail.com

your stupid!

are you sure it is "my stupid" ? Can it be somebody else's stupid too? or just mine?

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Homicide rates tend to be related to firearm ownership levels. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of households owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rate

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The level of gun ownership world-wide is directly related to murder and suicide rates and specifically to the level of death by gunfire.

I'm not saying not having guns is the best way to go, all I'm saying is that having guns isn't a solution either. But if you want to think in black & whites... sure go ahead.

blackened · 25th March 2010, 19:18

My point was simply that every brutal regime in history started out by disarming their populous. Unarmed people are much easier to rule and are much less likely to revolt.

24th March 2010, 13:59	#1
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	China tries to bully Google As of Tuesday the site was still not blocked, but most observers believe that the Chinese government will move to block google.cn or google.com.hk. Some are astounded at the move by Google. Former U.S. ambassador to China J. Stapleton Roy, director of the Kissinger Institute on China and the United States at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, states, "I don’t understand their calculation. I do not see how Google could have concluded that they could have faced down the Chinese on a domestic censorship issue." Google could pay deeply for the move. China is home to over 155 million smart phone users and that number is growing rapidly. Contrary to its previous statements, the Chinese government is now moving to ban Google's Android handsets from China. It is reportedly pressuring telecoms like China Unicom to delay or scrap smart phone offerings that use Google's Android OS. This could prove a boon to Research in Motion and Apple, the latter of which has seen poor sales of its iPhone in China. http://www.dailytech.com/China+Strik...ticle17954.htm __________________

24th March 2010, 16:00	#3
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	JFYI China was already blocking many of Google's services. Would not want to live in a country with such a government. Surprised that there haven't been many revolutions... or maybe they are still to come.. a government suppressing their people never ends nicely http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en __________________

24th March 2010, 18:03	#5
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	uhm, having guns doesn't make it safer or create a solution __________________

25th March 2010, 13:02	#7
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	or your kid shoots his head of. Or you shoot your neighbor who walks drunken in your backyard, or he brings he bigger gun and kills your wife and kids instead of just taking some money. ... __________________

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25th March 2010, 12:37	#6
snogler@hotmail.com Posts: n/a	having guns can save your life. there are a lot of bad guys out there and you can fight them off with your stick or logic.

25th March 2010, 13:27	#8
snogler@hotmail.com Posts: n/a	your stupid!

25th March 2010, 19:18	#10
blackened Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 79	My point was simply that every brutal regime in history started out by disarming their populous. Unarmed people are much easier to rule and are much less likely to revolt.