dothan gaming experience...
 

... or why Intel should ditch it's P4 line in favor of the P-M line

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Now imagine: dual channel, agp 8x, and more power oriënted mainbords rather then silent, low power oriënted :drool:

*edit* also notice the price difference between the compared systems ;)

:ws: :mad:
Intel Dothan is gonna kick arse I tell u. ^^:D

Too bad they didn't clock higer. And they used the Aopen board.

good link :)
and the article is of course 100% true,

By the looks of it, the DFI isn't all that much better...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&page=1&pp=25

I think Charlie hits the nail on it's head (dutch expression translated, I don't now an expression in english that would come down to the same thing ;p)

check the prices for Dothan www.mpl.be :mad:

the question is : can these things scale up beyond 2.5 ghz... coz if they can't they'll just be on par with an overclocked fx

which is bad because...

...it's no jump forward. some years ago we used to have jumps forward that mattered, remember.
now we're strolling the streets of cpuspeed about as fast as I have to go when I'm shopping with my gf through a bookstore.

unnervingly slow that is.
painstakingly slow.

My question is, how does the Celeron M 350 perform? It's based on the Dothan core, but is really affordable (125e).

But who's gonna buy a 125euro celeron when their motherboard costs twice as much? ;)

fuggers 2.0 @ 2.5 stable stock Vcore stock DFI heatsink ;)
the dothan apparently is just as bandwith hungry (and dependant) as the P4. the benefits of DC alone would be quite an improvement.
afaik the successor of the centrino combo will have support for the 533 fsb dothans and offer DC support :super: ... for DDR2 :grum:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...913#post618913
Also, in dispite of what you may expect from dfi, the boards aren't' designed with overclocking in mind.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...714#post622714
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...099#post623099
It's not the same but it shows the performance difference at stock... should give you a bit of an idea...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2129&p=10

found something you may find interesting :)

@ Vcore1.442V (not sure what cooling, may be under LN2... I don't speak japanese ;))

My DFI mobo and Dothan 725 arrived Tuesday. Formatted yesterday and running now at 2 GHz. I'm gonna push it a little further this afternoon.

lucky bastard :^D

mine was supposed to be here thursday, but there was a mix up. they delivered it at my fathers address. Now I have to wait untill after the weekend before I can go and pick it up. I'll probably have to work too late on monday to go and pick it up.

On the other hand, the post office the package is at is right next to the aitec electronics shop so i can buy the resistors for the mods in one go when I go pick it up :D

I got him at 135 fsb max. and real unstable. 130 fsb is stable. did a superpi at 135:


I need to do some voltmodding, but I can't solder. :(

a good time to learn how to solder then ;)

just practise on broken hardware

Yeah, but I'm a total noob. What solder bolt should I use, which wires, which solder...
And I know nothing about elektricity exept some basic formulas for Ohm and Watt...

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&howtoID=47


madshrimps has everything ;)

15W soldering iron with very fine tip, preferably heat adjustable but not a must.
60/40 rosin core solder the smaller the diameter the better.
rosin flux (not acid flux)
40wire ide cables are good. 80wire ide cables are bad.
you don't need to know about electronics, there are guids for to tell you what to do ;)



btw. set your agp/pci speed higher to achieve higher fsb overclock and try the latest biosses. fugger said about a recent bios release that it gained him 2sec in pi just like that.

:grum:

I reached higher then that, but it wasn't stable. It was kinda weird. Like everything freezes, but after a few seconds it went back normal. But the "freezes" kept on repeating themself.

Well what do you know, I think I got everything:D.I'm not sure about the bolt and the flux though. The bolt is 25 W and doesn't really have a fine tip. And the flux, I don't know if it's accid or not.

50k's for all the mods right?



I picked up my stuff today but it won't post :(

I did this mod today. I'm glad it worked. :^D
Those holes are pretty small and it was just like I was having parkingson :s
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...0&postcount=93

hehehe, I tried socket mod once on my axp, it was a mess. I kept loosing the threads whenever I took out the cpu so I did the pinmod instead. that was just as big of a pain in the *** to do but at least those stick when I take out the cpu :D