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wutske 30th September 2009 22:09

CUDA and AGP ?
 
I have small problem. For some of our master thesis subjects we should work with nVidia's CUDA technologie, but the problem is that I don't have a CUDA enabled videocard and my desktop pc doesn't have any PCI-e slot.

So, the thing is that I'm looking for a CUDA enabled AGP videocard, but I haven't found one yet :redface: .
So far I've only found a lot of GeForce 6200's with an AGP connection and even one PCI GeForce 8400GS (which is CUDA enabled, but probably slower than a regular cpu :rolleyes: ).

Anyone knows where I could found a CUDA enabled AGP graphics card ? Price should be below €100 ;)

Kougar 30th September 2009 23:55

I'm fairly sure none exist, or at least I'm not aware of any currently made stream processor designed NVIDIA AGP GPU's.

Closest thing would be ATI's 4670 and 4650 AGP cards, they have stream processors and support GPGPU. Or, both GPU makers now/will support Directcompute and OpenCL... http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=8

jmke 1st October 2009 08:22

there are 8500/8600 GT AGP version out there, these GPUs support CUDA

leeghoofd 1st October 2009 08:24

Does a 7600GS AGP also support it ? or is it only from the 8 series on ?

edit : just found the list cuda list

jmke 1st October 2009 08:57

7 series has no CUDA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Supported_GPUs

wutske 1st October 2009 09:39

The 8500/8600GT seems like a good sulution, but I can't seem to find any available one :redface:

openCL isn't an option either because we'll be working with libraries designed for CUDA.

Looks like it's going to be an expensive master thesis :-p (and I've already asked the school whether they could buy the hardware and it's a no-go :( )

leeghoofd 1st October 2009 09:55

what cpu do you have ? I can lend ya my Asrock AGP/PCI-E mobo in case it's a S775 CPU...

Looking for AGP 8 series cards on Ebay, zero luck till now

jmke 1st October 2009 11:17

they are indeed pretty rare :(
but why fret; what CPU do you have now?

at http://azerty.nl/ for less than €100 you can get mobo/cpu/vga add a few euro's more for DDR2 memory and you're set :)



+€30 for 2gb DDR2 PC2-6400

wutske 1st October 2009 13:37

It's a Barton, so no way I can get a motherboard with PCI-e for it :D

Been looking for a cheap as system too at Forcom and Tones and it'd set me back €220 for a very basic AM2 system with a 9400GT which is not that bad :) .
Going to ask the researcher if a simple Celeron is powerfull enough (afaik his part of the project is written for x86).

jmke 1st October 2009 13:56

it's not a celeron per sé, it's a Intel Dual Core CPU; pretty quick for the money
and half as expensive as that €240

wutske 1st October 2009 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 245058)
it's not a celeron per sé, it's a Intel Dual Core CPU; pretty quick for the money
and half as expensive as that €240

That's because that €220 includes a 9400GT, memory and a new 320Gb hard disk ;) .

Kougar 1st October 2009 18:39

8-series AGP cards were one-offs and made for a short time, never really saw many of them (if even saw some advertised models at all). CUDA is only possible on GPU's with stream processors / shaders, so therefor only 8-series onwards.

Edit: And check the $/GB cost of those small drives... US-side a 320GB drive costs more than double per GB than the 750GB-1TB drives.

wutske 2nd October 2009 06:39

True, €/Gb usualy decreases as the capacity increases, but unfortunatly the totaly cost isn't decreasing.
160Gb: €39 (€0,244/Gb)
320Gb: €40 - €45 (€0,125/Gb - €0,141/Gb)
500Gb: €52 - €53 (€0,104/Gb - €0,106/Gb)
640Gb: €60 - €61 (€0,093/Gb)
750Gb: €70 (€0,093/Gb)

As you can see, a 320Gb is €0,032/Gb more expensive than a €750Gb drive, but in the end it costs me almost half of what a 750Gb drive costs.

Kougar 2nd October 2009 17:02

True, but it also shows the 500GB or 640GB drives would be worthwhile. The higher the platter density the better the performance too, all of my 320GB drives are slow even by HDD standards now.

€40 for 320GB or €60 for 640GB, half again the price for double the capacity. Would come down to if ya would ever even need 320GB of room I guess. :)


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