buildin a sata raid with ide hard-disks
 

Here's my plan
there is a Sata-Raid controller on my mainboard.
i have one 80 gig 7200 rpm 2 mb cache Maxtor ide HD.
i 'm planning to buy a second one, and two ide to sata adaptors.
And build a raid on that base.

any comments/toughts?
my local hardware guru says its a no-show.

buy a pci pata raid controller !

edit : look for 2nd hand

it will work with the adapters afaik

but a pata raid is easy to find 2ndhand ,
how much do the converters cost ?
can't seem to find them prijswatch.be

quite a lot when bought new I think. €30+?

jups, altough i found them for 15 € on some american site, doesn't help me any further ffcourse...
the great thing about sata are the nfty little cables, altough i have rounded ide ones...
but i really do want to use the sata raid interface on my mainbord

sell your IDE drives, buy new SATA ones. will come to a loss of ~€60, which is basically the cost of the convertors. And that way you are set with new drives and no worries for lateron.

too complicated :)

does a build in sata raid controller put a heavy load on my cpu, compared to a pci ide adaptor?
more or less?
does anyone has some interesting linkks on the subject?

look at our main site:)



Onboard SATA vs PCI SATA
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=109

i just noticed in the first post that he's only got one pata drive atm ,

so sell that one pata drive and buy 2 sata's

I think i've found some good adaptors, i even saw them for 15€ each on the net.
They are made by abit and are called "SERILLEL 2"
Oh, and i btw read that most (exept for 3 or so) native hard-disks are in fact just ide's with the converter built in.
so it' s no use selling that HD, and then buying two with the converters built in when i can buy the convertor apart.
They might prove usefull these converters when i buy bigger hd's, or transfer these disks to a newer pc and so on and so forth.

i still think you can find a pci raid controller for less then 30€ 2ndhand
(bought mine for 15 €)

I also use that serillel, was with my abit board. Maybe you should look around for people who bought a abit board resently. Ans ask them to sell there convertor?

edit: 1 problem, if you got a small case, the hdd with the convertor won't fit in every hdd place. I had some problems in my wavemaster, the serillel was pushing to a capacitor.

hehe, my case is huge, and very expensive.
It's one of those heavy chieftecs, WITH a case window :)
But thanks for the tip Kristof, i'll leave a message in the bargain forum

New question guys:
how easy is it to take all your existing data (everything, not just my documents, i want an exact copy of my current hard drive) on to the raid setup.
read my first post again: everything is on my 80gig disk wich will be used in the raid setup...

building a RAID array SCRATCHES both disks before they can be used. Either write your data to DVD/CD's or lent a 3rd HD for temporary storage.

If you are planning on building on running a RAID-0 array (160GB in total), you might as well delete all the data on your 80GB right away, since the risk of data corruption and data loss is VERY high with RAID-0

laten we verder gaan in het nederlands, dan versta ik misschien de belangrijke stukken.
zou het zo gaan:

stel dat ik nog ergens anders een tijdelijke lege harde schijf (ide) vind,
is het hele gebeuren dan zo simpel als:
1- gewoon alle mapjes op mijn c-schijf op de tijdelijke disk zetten (tijdelijke schijf is A, degene die in raid komen B en C)
2- van B en C een raid setup maken
3- Booten van A, en alle data naar B+C copieren
4-A eruit halen, en aan het bios duidelijk maken dat het niet van ide maar van sata-raid chip moet booten?

wel programma gebruiken als ghost of drive image.
als je gewoon de mappen kopieert ga je verbrogen en system mappen niet kunnen kopieren, + de nieuwe drive is geen boot drive.

En de kans op data corruptie is slecht 2 keer zo groot bij een RAID array.
't is nie dat ge uw schijven in de leuvense stoof ga plaatsen he.

use ghost/powerquest or other drive imaging software to copy the contents of your systemdrive on the temp. drive. (make a bootable floppy with the imaging soft. on it)

create the raid array with your 2 new disks. then reghost that array with the contents of the temp. drive
done. you should not even have to enter your BIOS :)

mmm JM, gelieve met heel simpele woordjes te spreken en in het nederlands aub :(
**** man, die raid lijkt echt wel een hachelijke onderneming te worden...


misschien nog wat cijfertjes en tech info:
Moederbord: Asus P4G8X Deluxe (bios version: 1005)
Sata Raid Controller: Silicon Image SiI 3112 (driver versie: 1.0.0.50)
Harde schijfen te gebruiken: Maxtor 80 gig IDE 7200 rpm, 2mb cache.
Convertors: Abit SERILLEL 2/1

online free translation:

"gebruik spook/de meest powerquest of andere software van de
aandrijvingsweergave om de inhoud van uw systemdrive op de
temperaturenaandrijving te kopiëren (maak bootable floppy met de
weergave zacht. op het)

creëer de invalsserie met uw 2 nieuwe schijven toen reghost dat de
serie met de inhoud van de gedaane temperaturenaandrijving u niet
zelfs uw BIOS zou moeten moeten ingaan:)"

that didn't quite clear things up now? normal reply will follow soon.

blue_boy, zorgt gewoon eerst da ge nen back-up hebt, dan kunt ge zonder zorgen beginnen te experimenteren met RAID. Als er iets misgaat is het toch nie erg, want ge hebt toch diene back-up.

dutch faq : http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&ie...a=lr%3Dlang_nl

find seagate 7200.7 sata drives

they are native, do very very well in ide0