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kr15t0f 10th November 2004 21:53

some noob questions about linux.
 
Yesterday I installed suse 9.1 but it seems to be more difficult than I tought.

I want to format my usb stick so it will work with linux, but I have to use fdisk, but whats fdisk, how I use it, where can I find it.

I also want to install flashplayer but I need to type ./flashplayer-installer in command. But it doesn't seem to work.

I downloaded aMSN, but it's in a .bin file, how do I open it with linux?

TeuS 11th November 2004 01:15

-just type fdisk in the shell (console)
-check user permissions on the file, so you can execute it chmod 755 flashplayer-installer
- never used that before. try the RPM or the source (.tar.gz).

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 10:25

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS
-just type fdisk in the shell (console)
other stuff allready worked, but still I got problems with that fdisk.

Do I have to type it in command or somewhere else? I think somewhere else, but where. And it seems that fdisk can make your disk unreadable, and I don't want to screw up my usb stick, so I need to be 100% sure how it works.

BTW, if I format it with fdisk, will it still work under windows?

BlackRabbit 11th November 2004 10:54

If fdisk is too hard, use cfdisk..

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 10:57

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackRabbit
If fdisk is too hard, use cfdisk..
don't know them both :D

It sais thet I have to type fdisk /dev in console.

Where is the console :D (thats prolly something I can find myself)
But than I have to type the name of the device behind the fdisk command, where can I see what name my USB stick has?

AND big question, will my usb stick still work in windows????

TeuS 11th November 2004 11:32

go the the start menu and open up a console or so. or press ctrl alt F1 to go textonly ctrl alt f5 (or f7) brings you back to the graphical environment

the stick is prolly /dev/sda. "fdisk /dev/sda"

format it with FAT, readable/writable by both linux and windows

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 20:22

if I type fdisk in the konsole nothing happens

TeuS 11th November 2004 20:55

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS
fdisk /dev/sda
don't forget you need to be root (command to go root: "su -")

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 20:58

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS

don't forget you need to be root (command to go root: "su -")

k, just figured that out but thanks anyway

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 21:21

fat isn't recognized by kernel :grum:

TeuS 11th November 2004 21:24

install an RPM with a FAT patch, or compile the latest kernel yourself

compiling a kernel isn't so difficult, and you learn a lot of usefull stuff

kr15t0f 11th November 2004 21:27

install you do just by updating, right?

I don't know how to compile, so I won't try that ;)

TeuS 11th November 2004 21:41

no. use google, download the suse FAT patch in RPM. doubleclick on it, or use the "rpm" command to install (rpm -i "...")

compiling isn't that hard. just google the kernel howto, follow the clear guidelines and everything will be OK

kr15t0f 12th November 2004 22:17

tried everything for that usb stick.

Tried to mount it (don't know how to do the fdisk stuff and the cfdisk is only for hdd)

tried it with

mkdir /mnt/usbstick
mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbstick

I get something like "/dev/sda1 is no (blok-apparaat)"

But linux recognized the stick, but it sais something like "unmountable usb drive"


edit: btw Teus, everyone told me that suse9.1 allready knows ntfs and fat, so thats prolly not the problem.

TeuS 12th November 2004 23:53

mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/usbstick ?

ehh... doesn't it mount automatically? :D
try booting with the stick already inserted. "mount" to see mounted stuff like HDD/memory and USB stick

I once used once under SUSE, it was mounted automatically at boot and i got an icon on the desktop

what happens when you try to "fdisk /dev/sda" "fdisk /dev/sda1"... when do you get the "FAT is not supported" error?

kr15t0f 13th November 2004 00:08

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS
mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/usbstick ?

ehh... doesn't it mount automatically? :D
try booting with the stick already inserted. "mount" to see mounted stuff like HDD/memory and USB stick

I once used once under SUSE, it was mounted automatically at boot and i got an icon on the desktop

what happens when you try to "fdisk /dev/sda" "fdisk /dev/sda1"... when do you get the "FAT is not supported" error?

I can see the stick in the screen with my floppy and cd-writer, but than when I open it I get an error and something about the stick that isn't mounted.

If I use fdisk /dev/sda1 it sais that /dev/sda1 doesn't exist.

I get the FAT error if I use FAT, not if I use vfat

TeuS 13th November 2004 00:13

obviously because you need to type "vfat" if you want to use FAT. typing "fat" doesn't work

try fdisk'ing / mounting "/dev/sda".
drop the 1 at the end

kr15t0f 13th November 2004 00:29

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS
obviously because you need to type "vfat" if you want to use FAT. typing "fat" doesn't work

try fdisk'ing / mounting "/dev/sda".
drop the 1 at the end

I gonna try that, I allready tried vfat and fat, but never sda without that "1"

kr15t0f 13th November 2004 09:28

non of this things worked :(. It doesn't seem to find sda/sda1.
And when I type dmesg is the konsole it doesn't find the USB stick anymore :(.

But now the usb stick get recognized in linux as a drive of "48B with 37.8GB free" :wtf: .

But I got no permisions on it, so I can't write to it.

kr15t0f 13th November 2004 16:03

moehahahaahhahahahaa :grin:
I did it :ws:
Did all the stuff you told me, but after that I allways getted a message that the stick contient a wrong file system.
So I format it in windows from FAT32 to FAT, and it worked :super:


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