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Sidney 28th October 2005 17:13

What do you think?
 
In theory -

Background:
Our body generates heat; and our skin regulars the body temperature acting like a heatsink.

Condition:
Standing outside a building or house under calm condition (less than 5 Mph wind) in the shade versus standing inside a building with two windows and two fans directly opposing each other and blowing at the same direction at about 20 mph.

Question:
Do you feel cooler in the building or outside?

agent #2 28th October 2005 17:29

I think that depends what's the temperature.
My guess:
If the temperature is the same I think it might be colder inside.

Sidney 28th October 2005 17:31

Same temp condition :) Different wind speed.

jmke 28th October 2005 20:43

more wind = feel colder

Sidney 28th October 2005 20:54

More wind = Feel colder = heat being removed from the skin = heat being removed from heatsink = higher thermal loss of any thermal generator

Sidney 28th October 2005 21:02

Put your hand in front of the intake fan of your PC; your hand feels "colder" from the draft drawing heat from your hand.

Put your hand in front of the exhaust fan; your hand may feel warmer; air blow across the case absorbs the temp from heat generator(s).

Just an 80mm fan will provide ~25-35 CFM; 2x80 = ~50 to 70 CFM in a case that is much smaller than a room; I have not figured out the velocity but it will certainly be higher than say inside a room where there is no wind speed to speak of. Otherwise, paper will be flying around.

Bottom line; a well vented case is far more efficient than open case.

jmke 28th October 2005 21:26

Quote:

Originally posted by lazyman

Bottom line; a well vented case is far more efficient than open case.

of course:) who ever stated otherwise?

jakkerd 28th October 2005 22:11

Quote:

Originally posted by lazyman
Bottom line; a well vented case is far more efficient than open case.
obviously, but an open case is easier to work with

Sidney 28th October 2005 22:15

Only if you need to test 50 heatsinks in a year:)

+ upgrading Vcard monthly
+ removing HDD out for "cleaning"
+ replacing power supply regularly just for fun

:D

It serves no other purpose except "looking cool" in front of your peers and endangering yourself and others in the same room.

If my kids use open case PC, I would have asked them to move out before the house gets burnt down.

agent #2 28th October 2005 23:49

I recently bought a new case (Thermaltake Soprano) which has 2 120 mm fans and 1 92 mm fan. Still the temperature is 4-5° higher then when it's open.

It seems I got to reorganize my cables, I think.

Sidney 29th October 2005 01:18

1) That's because the front intake panel is restrictive.
2) That side panel 92mm fan is "hurting" the air flow of the case.

Sidney 29th October 2005 01:27

side window fan with & without-

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~lazym...WChillvent.htm

agent #2 29th October 2005 09:39

Quote:

Originally posted by lazyman
1) That's because the front intake panel is restrictive.
2) That side panel 92mm fan is "hurting" the air flow of the case.

Thats are possibilities I didn't think off. :)
Could it be that the dust filter from the front intake restricts it?

I'll test it.

FreeStyler 29th October 2005 11:56

best case I ever had was the default cgieftech dragon medium case. 3 fans in front, 2 of wich in a HD cage, and 2 in the back next to the PSU fan.
I had a lian li PC-60 that couldn't beat it's temps. (was easier to carry however, guess you can't have it all)

Sidney 29th October 2005 18:18

Equation to calculate air flow requirement in a case -

Q = 1.76 W / TC
Where:
Q = Airflow required in CFM
W = Heat dissipated in watts
Tc = Temperature rise above inlet temp ° C
For example, how much CFM air-cooling does a system need that dissipates or consumes 300 Watts, allowing only a 10 degree C rise? The above equation results in 52.8 CFM.

source
http://www.jmcproducts.com/cooling_i...e_analysis.pdf


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