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187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 11:05

Stuck
 
Well i am not an overclocker but atleast i tryed it :).

Setup :
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- AMD XP2400+ TB - Epox 8RDA+ rev 1.1 - 2*256 Corsair Pc3200 (XMS I think).

First thing i did was looking how far my fsb would go , went over 200 but i took 200.

I increased my VCore to 1.75V (in .jpg its wrong vcore).
Set my mp to 11.

11*200 = 2200mhz

I booted , but couldn't run 3dmark2001.

So I think the ram is slowing me down , but i don't know nothing about ram and stuff and steppings and how far i can increase my ram voltage.

Ram :
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Freq. : 200.5MHZ
FSB : DRAM = 5:6
stepping = 2.5-3-3-8





thx

Tarantula 9th January 2004 11:27

first of al, set your devider too 1/1 , 2/2 , 3/3 , 4/4 , 5/5 or 6/6 so that your RAM runs at the same speed as your FSB = better performance with AMD, seccondly, when running 3dmark2001, does it suddenly give a bluescreen and a reboot, or does it just exit 3dmark back to windows?

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 11:31

just goes back to windows.

Tarantula 9th January 2004 11:35

hmmm, if it was your RAM which could not handle the speed and timings, you'dd get an error message(bluescreen)

up that Vcore 1 step, maybe that will help, or if it is your vidcard which is clocked too high or is getting not enough power, clock it down a bit, dunno, trial and error ;)

edit: I envy your 12V line :D

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 11:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Tarantula
hmmm, if it was your RAM which could not handle the speed and timings, you'dd get an error message(bluescreen)

up that Vcore 1 step, maybe that will help, or if it is your vidcard which is clocked too high or is getting not enough power, clock it down a bit, dunno, trial and error ;)

edit: I envy your 12V line :D

Where is that devider located because i don't know what i need to change.

My videocard is Aopen Gf4Ti4200 128MB @250/550 mhz (standard).
how can i up my power for my vidcard ??.

LOL my 12V isn't good , well bought my supply with my Aopen case HB600 or something like that :p

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 11:58

Mhh put my mem on this : 2.5-4-4-9 CPU @2200MHZ FSB@200(score 10255)

Run 3Dmark2001 and some images are shocking and i got a lower score then this setup XP2400+ @ 166FSB ram timings : 2.5-3-3-8 (score 11700)


But can it be because of some processes are running in the background ?

FreeStyler 9th January 2004 12:04

Put your memory timings on auto (not SPD) and they should be synch with the FSB. Else you might want to set it to a 1:1 divider.
This should be in the same menu as the CPU settings. But you might have to put your ram to expert settings to activate it.

Try the following sequence:
www.memtest86.com, run this memtest too see if your memory is giving problems.
www.mersenne.org, Run prime95 torture test for an hour (or even better a day) should give you most, if not all CPU problems.

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 12:16

its set to a divider 1:1

run 3dmark again , it freezed my image --> reset.

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 13:53

Pc freezed while he was doing some heavy work , so its the cpu right ?

CPU Vcore 1.81V.
CPU temp 40° Idle.
Mobo @ 23° idle.

Btw freestyler gonna do Prime later on and for that memtest you need a floppy and i don't have that ;)

Any ideas ?

jmke 9th January 2004 14:04

Memtest also comes as a bootable CDROM image :)

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 14:30

Wel prime and memtest are for later because i need to study :(.

did some quick tests :

CPU :




Mem :




I think the memory is quite low.

p.s: Artifacts when running 3Dmark2001

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 15:00

Aquamark is lower now , weird.

GFX points are lower then when i didn't overclock fsb & cpu

EDIT :Prime locks up

EDIT : 11.5*190 , stable and doesn't lock up, maybe fsb can't keep up.
Should a flash bios for higher fsb ?

187(V)URD@ 9th January 2004 16:56

Just tested my GF and overclocked it @ 265/580 , no artifacts and lockups (11.5*190fsb) , ran aquamark => +1700 points.

So I think my fsb isn't stable @200MHZ and my cpu isn't that hot @2200MHZ (40° idle).

incase you didn't noticed i am nooboverclocker :king:

jmke 9th January 2004 16:58

EN -> NL ;)

187(V)URD@ 10th January 2004 12:55

Blame school jmke :p

Vulk 11th January 2004 12:32

What's your chipsetvoltage?

187(V)URD@ 11th January 2004 14:24

1.75 in bios but windows programs are saying 1.8v.

But i think its my fsb because i ran prime95 whole day and didn't lock up @2200mhz (fsb 190).

cR00zIFI><3r 11th January 2004 16:37

Quote:

11.5*190 , stable and doesn't lock up, maybe fsb can't keep up.
Should a flash bios for higher fsb ?
Quote:

But i think its my fsb because i ran prime95 whole day and didn't lock up @2200mhz (fsb 190).
if you ran prime all day, and it didn't lock up, then it's NOT the CPU that's holding you down...mut be something else then...

Could you give me some specifications about the mem.??
the brand, speed...

187(V)URD@ 11th January 2004 20:17

Quote:

Originally posted by cR00zIFI&gt;&lt;3r




if you ran prime all day, and it didn't lock up, then it's NOT the CPU that's holding you down...mut be something else then...

Could you give me some specifications about the mem.??
the brand, speed...

Its in my first post i think , if you wanna know more I have to take my ram out of the pc.

FreeStyler 11th January 2004 20:52

You should first run memtest, prime stresses both the CPU and memory (and off course the CPU mem bridge of th chipset)
First test full on low speed CPU and high speed FSB's.
Memtest prime and 3Dmark.
Then as you found the max FSB, up the multi to find max CPU.
Testing again memtest prime and 3dmark.

No-one said good overclocking was a quick fix.

jmke 11th January 2004 20:55

overclocking is. finding the exact limit of a system isn't :)

187(V)URD@ 11th January 2004 22:05

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeStyler
You should first run memtest, prime stresses both the CPU and memory (and off course the CPU mem bridge of th chipset)
First test full on low speed CPU and high speed FSB's.
Memtest prime and 3Dmark.
Then as you found the max FSB, up the multi to find max CPU.
Testing again memtest prime and 3dmark.

No-one said good overclocking was a quick fix.

Thx freestyler gonna do what you just said after my exams :super: .

I get back soon when my overclock is finished.
:grin:

187(V)URD@ 12th January 2004 19:13

got a problem, i tryed 13.5 * 166fsb = 2200mhz but my pc said xp1800+ :( , my pc doesn't accept the "high" mp ??.

I am now on 10*200fsb = 2ghz.

FreeStyler 12th January 2004 20:04

you're limited to a multi of max 13 or 12.5 (help me out here guys, I foggot)

jmke 12th January 2004 20:36

12.5 is the max without doing extra manipulations to the cpu

187(V)URD@ 12th January 2004 21:09

And that are wiretricks ? explain plz :-)

jmke 12th January 2004 21:19

Quote:

Cut the 3rd and 5th bridge of L3 to unlock all the multys.

If i'm not mistaken you can cut them while *shortcircuiting* them. 5V + needles will do the trick. But i would ask a second opinion about this.

EDIT:
JCViggen: I would recommend using the 5V line from a PSU to cut the bridges. works perfectly and leaves no marks. takes 15 seconds

more info:http://www.beachlink.com/candjac/Workarounds.htm

187(V)URD@ 12th February 2004 23:17

Wanted to know my CPU limit and it ran into 2300MHZ @ 1.75Vcore.
18*133 he wouldn't start up also increased VCORE to 1.8V still nothing.
Then I wanted to know my max FSB , was around 205-210 but i choose 200.

Didn't had luch time for my memory tbh but it is on 6-3-2-2 @ 200MHZ.


then i wanted to add the stuff togheter but it failed , wouldn't go to windows.

Now i am stuck on 2200MHZ @200FSB with 1.75Vcore and 6-3-2-2 @ 200MHZ.

Roomtemp. 20-23°C
Idle 37°C ---- Load 39-42°C
Cooler slk7

Nog iets dat ik niet begrijp is dat men Vcore in bios 1.75 is ,
in CPUZ = 1.6V
MBM = Core1 : 1.6V --- Core2 : 1.8V



Screen 1
screen 2

This is not so :mad:

Tum0r 12th February 2004 23:35

mod your psu rails

upping the 3.3 to a nice 3.5 will help u get a better fsb...
upping the 5V helps when u oc a radeon
upping the 12v looks good :p

all and all it a very easy mod @ xtreme

FreeStyler 13th February 2004 09:52

And you could throw your PC into a nuclear reactor. The extra energy might squeeze out a couple of extra MHz.

But it will most likely hurt the PC in the end.

187(V)URD@ 13th February 2004 10:39

Or i can buy a floppy disk and flash my mobo and do a wiretrick on my cpu and see if my cache level increases :p.

CrIpLeX 20th February 2004 16:49

I had the same cpu, i had it on 190*12.5 = 2387Mhz, and it ran quite good on temps (i had watercooling for SOME reason :D )

mem timings were 2-2-2-5 ^^


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