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geoffrey 11th May 2008 15:40

PC chips M590 voltage modifications
 
PC chips M590



- 2-168pin DIMM slot (4/8/16/32/64/128/256meg SDRAM pc-66/100)
- Embedded 64 bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator with 4/8MB frame buffer
- 1024K Onboard Pipelined Burst synchronous L2 cache
- PC100 / SiS 5591 Pentium chipset
- 321pin ZIF socket 7 which supports these processors:
INTEL Pentium 90~350MHz P54C, P55C MMX
Cyrix/IBM 6x86/6x86L/6x86MX/MII, IDT C6,and AMD K5/K6/K6-2 CPUs
- Supports 60/66/75/83/100 MHz external clock speeds
- onboard 3D sound pro

geoffrey 11th May 2008 16:46

1 Attachment(s)
Locate the K34063A IC.



CLK
Clock input. Provides fundamental timing for the processor.

BF0-2
Bus Frequency clock multiplier (bus to core frequency ratio).
1.5x and 2.0x when only BF0 is present.
1.5x, 2.0x, 2.5x, and 3.0x when BF0 and BF1 are present.
2.0x, 2.5x, 3.0x, 3.5x, 4.0x, 4.5x, 5.0x, and 5.5x when BF0, BF1, and BF2 are present.
[ Note: What multipliers are available is entirely dependent on the processor itself. ]

geoffrey 11th May 2008 19:31

Using AMD K6 350MHz, I can choose following FSB settings:
60MHz
66MHz
83MHz
75MHz
100MHz

Multipliers:
2
2.5
3
3.5
4
4.5
5
5.5

Unfortunately there is a glitch in the BIOS, when using the 100MHz FSB setting I noticed how the multipliers settings did not match with what is applied in real life. Using multi 5 whould set the multiplier to 4.5 in real life. This happens only when using the 100MHz FSB settings, for the whole range of available multi's. Downside is that the highest I can set my CPU at is 500MHz (100x5.5), which is just barely higher then 85x5.5 (470MHz CPU).
Record is at 550MHz for now, I know I can easily hit that speed if the mainboard would not have the glitch.

I noticed how the ASUS P5A allows up to 120MHz FSB, this would bring me at 600MHz. Might require phase change cooling though.

I really need own PLL for CPU.

EDIT: might want to check out this: http://www.unixload.de/netvista/

Massman 11th May 2008 22:29

Excellent, I have the same motherboard lying around, I have the Asus P5A as well and have another board coming to me from germany.

Revival of the K6!!

geoffrey 12th May 2008 13:57

500MHz boot:
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=734683

jmke 12th May 2008 14:21

don't pollute the HWbot;)

geoffrey 13th May 2008 16:59

What, no valid entry? Others do it too, no penalty for them?

geoffrey 17th May 2008 15:06

Pentium 1 166MHz MMX Test



Stock: 66MHz FSB x 2,5 multiplier = 166MHz

Test results:
100MHz FSB x 2x multiplier = boot, nice: CPU will like the bandwidth
100Mhz x 2,5 = boot :-p
100Mhz x 3 = boot ;-D
100Mhz x 4 = boot :D
100Mhz x 5 = boot :love:
100Mhz x 5,5 = boot :o ....... wait a minute, is that even possible????


For the 100MHz x 5,5 (550MHz) I had to increase CPU voltage up to 3,4V, but considering it is aircooled I began to question if that was even possible. That's more then triple its original speed... So, I let it boot into windows, there I noticed that the CPU speed is at only 314MHz (windows system readout). :angry:

In real life I don't think that the clock speed shown at system boot is not correct, to far beyond specs and others seem to hit only around 300MHz using same type of cooling. Hwbot scores: http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?...66Mhz+%2874%29

Still good enough for me to get the gold medals, only have to get the USB interface working so that I can start installing software. I only wonder where all these verifications files went to, almost no entry has a picture included :no:


Anyway, I think this is a very good example why you should not accept system boot screenshots :D

jmke 18th May 2008 03:35

promising bootup OC, indeed unbelievable clocks on air; too bad it didn't last until windows:)

CPU-Z ranking is CPU-Z ranking;)

what do you mean with

Quote:

I only wonder where all these verifications files went to, almost no entry has a picture included
?

geoffrey 18th May 2008 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 169780)
what do you mean with

?

Never mind, can see them now :)

DDC 19th May 2008 20:35

At HWBot you say its a P5A, voltmodded that to?

Massman 19th May 2008 20:51

I think he owns a P5A as well :)

geoffrey 19th May 2008 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDC (Post 169928)
At HWBot you say its a P5A, voltmodded that to?

Hmm, where did I say that?

geoffrey 25th May 2008 13:49

Remarkable result: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=698461

This guy is roughly 40s in front of the other guys who hit 300MHz stable. At 315MHz with lowest memory timings I'm still roughly 30s slower then this guy, would that be due to the Sis chipset?

Massman 25th May 2008 13:57

Some motherboards have L2 cache soldered onto the motherboard, which makes quite some difference when put together with such a slow chip.

G, when are you going to mount your mach2 unit on the Pentium? :D

geoffrey 25th May 2008 14:17

Have the peltier on it ATM, but its not really needed, can get same speeds when air cooled :)

2x cache here.

Massman 25th May 2008 14:21

Iirc, the PCchips you have now only has 512kb cache on board, while some other boards have 2MB on board.

Recently found this site, maybe it can help: http://home.datacomm.ch/artois/Specs...07%20Specs.htm

geoffrey 25th May 2008 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massman (Post 170530)
Iirc, the PCchips you have now only has 512kb cache on board, while some other boards have 2MB on board.

Recently found this site, maybe it can help: http://home.datacomm.ch/artois/Specs...07%20Specs.htm

To be correct, it's 2x512kb = 1MB, but I catch your drift :)
Your Gigabyte board has 'only' 512MB?

Nice link btw ;-)

Massman 25th May 2008 17:44

I bought the Gigabyte for maximum overclock, I'm looking to buy a 2M cache mobo for benchmarks right now. The only board on ebay.de, however, can only be send for 23€ to belgium, which would mean I'd pay 4x more for the shipping than for the actual board ... a no-go.

In the meanwhile, I was looking for my 590i board as well, but turns out those are still being sold at 50€+ :eek:

geoffrey 12th August 2008 19:29

Still stuck @ 100MHz Front Side Bus, good enough for second place at hwbot.org. Came upon CPU Cool, a tool which allows adjusting FSB in windows, unfortunately it is not able to set FSB beyong PLL specifications. So, maxing out at 100MHz :(

geoffrey 14th August 2008 16:06

Done benchmarken the Pentium MMX 166, plugged in AMD K6-2 350 but after 1min I saw smoke coming out of the power mosfets :eek:

Board still boots now, but that smell :no:

Massman 14th August 2008 16:25

Holy smoke! (litterally)

geoffrey 14th August 2008 16:30

#1 Pentium MMX 166Mhz in wPrime 32m with 10min 57sec 710ms
#1 Pentium MMX 166Mhz in wPrime 1024m with 5h 47min 19sec 10ms
#2 Pentium MMX 166Mhz in CPU-Z with 314.99 mhz
#2 Pentium MMX 166Mhz in SuperPi with 432.79 sec
#2 Pentium MMX 166Mhz in SuperPi 32m with 6h 57min 57sec 690ms

way to easy, can't find my crystal oscillators :(

geoffrey 5th September 2008 21:34

so... gigabyte GA-5SMM came in:



66/75/83/90/95/100/105*/112*/124*/133* MHz System Bus
CPU Voltage 1.3V~3.5V
Clock multiplier 1.5/2.0 ...... / 5.5
CHIPSET
SiS 530 & 5595 AGPset
512KB PB SRAM on board

Mine comes without the onboard SRAM though. It's a rev1.3 board. Bummer: no BIOS overclocking options, so far I managed to run WinXP setup :) More later on.

Massman 5th September 2008 22:46

133/33,3 config?

geoffrey 7th September 2008 12:05

1 Attachment(s)
Should be supported:


geoffrey 5th December 2009 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffrey (Post 221957)
Done benchmarken the Pentium MMX 166, plugged in AMD K6-2 350 but after 1min I saw smoke coming out of the power mosfets :eek:

Board still boots now, but that smell :no:

Upper Fet becomes super warm even with low power Pentium1, think there was a bad contact between FET and PCB. Anyhow, desoldered it and replaced both CPU vCore fet's with D452 fet's which I found on a dead low-end ATI videocard. Works nice, no heating now although the board refuses to boot when using one specific PSU where it work on flawless before the modification. Strange things these computers.

geoffrey 7th December 2009 09:58

Interesting side note:
PC Chips M590 uses the ICS 9148BF-17 PLL, the system base clock is being generated at pins 44, 43, 41 and 40 which are called CPUCLK0/4. Deconnecting one of these pins makes the system not bootable, but it seems that there is no real difference between each of these CPUCLK pins because you can deconnect one and put it together with one other. Tested by deconnecting term.resistor at pin 40 and making the connecting between clock trace of pin 40 and clock trace of pin 43.

My next tryout was to completely deconnect the CPUCLK pins by removing all the term.resistors and use an external CPU clock. I used an Intel Slot A board with ICS9250BF-81 clock oscillator and linked the CPUCLK pins to the PCCHIPS board where I removed the term.resistors. This however did not work out and now the PCCHIPS board doesn't boot anymore, even with everything back at default. Another victim of war :(


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