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FreeStyler 2nd June 2004 12:50

Looking for WC parts.
 
I'm designing a new case for myself from the ground up. However I'm still looking for certail parts:
- a radiator, something like a BIX 2, but thinner. The BIX is 44mm thick, and I'd like something a bit less if possible.

- Waterblocks with 90° elbow fittings. I have very little space in this setup, so I can't use ordinairy fittings.
Is it possible to mod a dangerden or simmilar with new fittings?

That's it for now. I'll keep you updated.

jmke 2nd June 2004 12:52

modding an RBX with 90°C fittings will impact the performance a LOT as this block performs best when water can enter at high speeds onto the center of the block. maybe check out this very compact swiftech block http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...&threadid=4880

FreeStyler 2nd June 2004 13:02

height is the problem, so I NEED those 90° fittings. The swiftech block with angled fittings might do, but this one will definitly NOT.
I wasn't thinking about an RBX, but more in the line of older dangerden models.
For an idea, I have about 4-5CM above the socket before I hit the PSU. If I move the PSU up, the case will get too wide or my liking.
Unless someone knows a GOOD, SILENT and fairly priced slim PSU.

It's not really a high pref cooling. It just has to keep my system cool like my zalman CNPS 7000 is doing now. But in less space and less noise.

jmke 2nd June 2004 13:13

CNPS7000 @ low noise is as silent as it gets, pump + 120mm @ low speed will equal noise :)

take a look at this review of a DD maze versus other wb blocks http://www.procooling.com/reviews/ht...iew_-_4_11.php

FreeStyler 2nd June 2004 13:26

it's running full speed now, and it's huge on the CPU.
Some low speed 120mm on a big rad should do the trick.

I'm mainly looking to reduce my PC in size for LAN parties, without going to shuttle systems.

jmke 2nd June 2004 13:28

what happens when you run it @ low speeds? PC crash? at what temps? any case fans?

Da_BoKa 2nd June 2004 13:42

a black ice micro 2 is about 45 mm thick and works with 80 mm fans

and a black ice pro is about 25 mm thick but works with 120 mm fans

quarantaine 2nd June 2004 15:24

i have 10* 1/2" fittings lying around here that have a 90° angle
(1/4 wire diameter)
they are made of blue plastic though

if you are interested, i payed them 3euro /piece and never used them

(better JMke? :p )

jmke 2nd June 2004 15:26

e*n*g*l*i*s*h please =)


edit: thank you :super:

TeuS 2nd June 2004 15:36

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
modding an RBX with 90°C fittings will impact the performance a LOT as this block performs best when water can enter at high speeds onto the center of the block. maybe check out this very compact swiftech block http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...&threadid=4880
what's the problem with 90° fittings?

the 90° corners only add some resistance and the water enters the block as usual. or not?

FreeStyler 2nd June 2004 16:09

you'll get a turbulation in the waterflow, where a straight flow would be better (for the RBX). And off course you'll get a presure loss, and on a block like the RBX, that shows.

As for the radiator, the black ice pro 2 is a step in the good direction. The site I had only showed the extreme (that's 20mm thicker)

quarantaine: how high are these firrings when screwed in??
And if you got any pics I'd be gratefull. I might take some off your hands once everything is up and running.

quarantaine 2nd June 2004 16:26

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeStyler


quarantaine: how high are these firrings when screwed in??
And if you got any pics I'd be gratefull. I might take some off your hands once everything is up and running.

http://quarantaine.mongtastic.be/diverse.html
(they are fixed at the pump)
it depends on how deep you screw them in, fully screwed in are they about 27mm high

jmke 2nd June 2004 16:37

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS

the 90° corners only add some resistance and the water enters the block as usual. or not?


I think that Liquid Jet-Array Cooling works efficiently due to the fact that cool water is sprayed onto the copper at a high velocity, placing a 90°C right in front of the intake will pretty much increase the complete water loops resistance, and you will end up with

a) worse performance
b) needing a bigger pump (more noise) to maintain performance

TeuS 2nd June 2004 17:03

no need to use big words, 90° elbows just lower the flow in the water

a) what do you consider worse, and do have you tested how many degrees the difference makes?

b) eheim 1200l/h barely makes more noise then the 600l/h, it's as silent when modded. noise is not the problem but I get the point

and please, don't over-react. it are only two elbows, so many people use them. are you serious you're going to buy a bigger pump just because of two elbows?

[Bonbon] 2nd June 2004 17:17

to be honest i don't think the difference in ° will be that big

maybe it should be tested

edit : after all , he's nog going for the best watercooling setup in the world , silence is its main target.

jmke 2nd June 2004 18:24

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
what happens when you run it @ low speeds? PC crash? at what temps? any case fans?

^up

Zalman @ low is more silent then the watercooling you want to install.

FreeStyler 2nd June 2004 21:33

Maybe, though a good setup with 120mm fans should be pretty silent, not to mention it would be smaller (what I have in mind is anyway)

I'm getting 37°C with the zalman on medium and just one casefan running. That's pretty good all things concidered.
This is idle however since I stopped with Distributed.net.
There's a HP80C with fan (5V) on the XT, keeping it nice and cool too. It's just this large lian li that's bothering me ATM.

About the elbows, I'll have to measure. It's a bit tall, but if I can't find anything better I'll take some off your hands to try out.

jmke 2nd June 2004 21:37

put it all in a small, alu case, and you'll have a compact, silent, performant, cool rig.

the zalman should be capable of running at low settings if you use a nice 120mm side-fan running at very low RPM (and try to squueze a 120mm fan at the top and you are really set temp wise); and by adding it to the side you can disable the fan for your XT :)

for a small case, side + top fan have giving me the best results, and if you use them both at very low RPM you won't hear them and the CPU temp will be LOW I guarantee.

FreeStyler 3rd June 2004 09:26

A lian-li PC60 isn't that big. and a PC30 puts the PSU over the CPU and that ain't good either.
All that's left is a home made case.
afterall where would the fun be in buying a prebuilt case?

jmke 3rd June 2004 09:39

I'm actually referring to a case-mod,

Aopen HQ45 , sidefan, topfan. excellent temps :)

FreeStyler 3rd June 2004 10:31

yea, that's too big ...
I'm aiming for less then half the volume.

And adding 2 120mm fans in a case would be less noisy then adding them to a rad???
And the pump will be the least of my problems.
Anyway got all I needed to know.

Anyone got a Black Ide Pro lying around that I can buy/borrow?

jmke 3rd June 2004 10:47

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeStyler
yea, that's too big ...
I'm aiming for less then half the volume.

uhm.. you can not find an ATX board in a case half the volume of the Aopen HQ45 afaik :p

Quote:

And adding 2 120mm fans in a case would be less noisy then adding them to a rad???
and where does the rad go in your "half the volume of a HQ45" go? ...

FreeStyler 3rd June 2004 12:43

I guess you'll have to see when it's done :p

Da_BoKa 3rd June 2004 21:05

i have a BIX and an home made block, my cpu is running passive @ 1.65 v ( 11*200 ) @ 40 degrees, so that ain't that bad

you can only make your case smaller if you make a desktop case, but still it will only be 20 cm smaller


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