hwbot, 18 months later
 

Hello all,

You might have noticed the hwbot rankings have improved since it was first used here. In may 2004 HWbot engine 1.0 came to life which solely updated the [M]adshrimps rankings, but huge fora like XtremeSystems and XtremeResources followed in the month after. In the 18 months that followed 26 other fora joined the rankings and the hwbot engine has improved greatly. Current engine is 1.9.0.4, version 2.0 would should support all the necessary functions to make it your #2 source for all hardware info (#1 would be here, offcourse :p ). I would like to thank you all for joining the hwbot rankings and supporting development for it, it wouldn't have come so far without your patience and support! :)

If it has been a long time you've thoroughly checked your local forum ranking, these features have recently been added:
- bot info: shows you your team moderator(s) for the hwbot and a link to instruct the hwbot to update your ranking immediatly.
- subrankings: 1 subranking for each videocard family (eg GeForce 6xxx, Radeon 9xxx) or processor subfamily (eg A64 regular, A64 FX, A64 X2, athlon xp, ...) who has at least 3(*) participating forummembers.
- link subrankings: each subranking has a link to the performance statistics of the subranking hardware. Eg, when you click 'global statistics' link next to the A64 FX category, you will get a graph of the average performance of each FX processor known, based upon the hwbot entries submitted.
example: http://www.hwbot.org/browseHardwareP...uSubFamilyId=8
- world top subrankings: the top 3 of each subranking is shown together with the team it belongs to.
- leaving members: a list of members who left and joined other teams is shown at the bottem. Their result will no longer appear in your rankings, but in the new team they are in.

Important changes on hwbot.org:
- performance statistics, average overclock, technical specifications of all known and scanned hardware at:
http://www.hwbot.org/browseHardwareProcessors.do
http://www.hwbot.org/browseHardwareVideoCards.do
- greatly improved search engine here:
http://www.hwbot.org/browseResults.do
- interactive FAQ:
http://www.hwbot.org/goFaq.do
- ability to claim results. Important! If you claim a result and change team, your results will move with you! You need to register with the same username as your forumusername, than click 'show personal results' and claim those who are yours. The team moderator from the forum your leaving (or a super moderator) has to verify it ('pending claimed results'), after which they are considered yours and will change to your current team.
- submit results: you can submit your results online instead of posting them in your forum ranking. They too will appear in the forum ranking. This can be an easy feature for moderators who want to import their old results manually.
- more rankings:
3Dmark 2001, 3Dmark 2003, 3Dmark 2005, Aquamark, PCMark 2004, PCMark 2005, PiFast, SisoftSandra, SuperPi, SuperPi 32m
- news: daily updated newssection with latest hardware info, hwbot news and daily comics. : )
- quick search hardware in the top right of www.hwbot.org: very handy! just type a partial description of your videocard / processor and it will autocomplete you with a list of possible matches!

Improvements soon to come:
- (*) ability for team moderators to adjust minimal / maximal amount of forum entries to show in the forum rankings (currently hardcoded 75 max for global ranking, minimal 3 for a subranking to show up and max 10)
- possibility for members to see how there score is matched to hardware
- system to prevent users to post their topscore in multiple participating rankings

Frederik

very usefull :ws:

keep up the good work

awesome feat RB
:ws:

Clean, fast, smart layout and easy to use !

I tip my hat for you Sir !

Thank you. : )

Just a few more features away from the big 2.0, so I can start pimpin' it. :D

bug-hunting activated!

X800GTO² becomes X800GTO? and is not counted in X800GTO2 stats:)

contest user score processor videocard description team blocked
3Dmark 2001 JMke 23207.00 unknown Radeon X800 GTO Opteron 1.8Ghz + X800GTO� 540/590 Arena51 false
3Dmark 2001 JMke 23207.00 unknown Radeon X800 GTO Opteron 1.8Ghz + X800GTO� 540/590 [M]adshrimps false

I now typed "X800GTO2" and results are taking in correctly

if I can OC my Opteron to 2.8Ghz for a bench I'll break 30k in 3DMark2001SE, according to the HWbot results in the dbase:)

all super pi times seem to end with *.99, My scores where 37s, 38s,39s, and on the page it sais 37.99s, 38.99s etc...

Also 3000+ venice and 3000+ newcastle are sometimes in the same category


only 2 I could find ;)

Ppl who don't use the superpi mod which is 2 decimals accurate, get a .99 penalty. :P


There's much tweaking to be done on the hw matching, but it will never be 100% accurate.

jmke, I tried to fix the gto2 bug, but the mysql database screws up non ascii characters. : / I used a workaround, but it's dirty.

SLI results are mixxed with single cards
any way to get people to formulate their score so we can split those up?

http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_490

average for 3dMark05 is really f*cked up now 8500 , while a single card doesn't even get 7500

hmmm yes, i should filter the SLI scores, or even better, display both SLI as non SLI scores.

yes both would be much better than removing/filtering them:)

I broke the CTRL key on my brand new laptop, damnit. : / No more coding till it's repaired.

there are 2 CTRL keys?

It's barely possible to work code fluently with the left CTRL key. Possible, but very annoying.

I always use the left Ctrl:p

uhm yes, i mean the right one. :p

Plug-in a keyboard to your laptop?

And RB can't you say in MySql

forexample: BrandGFX = Replace(txtBrandGFX, "²", "2")

no, because it's already a f****d up character sequence in the db, something i can't even copy & paste here. : ) I'll figure out sth for the future, but currently it's not a high priority bug because it only causes problems with the X800GTO2, and i found a workaround for that card.


I could plug in another keyb, but the fact remains i will have to return my laptop and miss it for a few days / weeks (fingers crossed).

Dell laptop?

Say that your crtl key is broken. They will come with a new one at your door within a few days. They just want to see if it's really broken. And if you act like a stupid they will replace it for you :D.

I didn't take the full-option warranty, sadly.


Question from a hardware n00b: high end ATI cards have memory running at +- 500mhz, high end NVIDIA videocards at +-1000mhz.

Is ATI advertising real memory speed, while nvidia is doubling it because ddr is twice as effective, or does nvidia really use faster memory? It's frigging annoying for the hwbot.

I think nVidia is just putting the DDR value; ATI the single.

Both memory speeds are +1000Mhz DDR.

Example:
MSI Geforce 7800GTX Memory @ 1.2Ghz

MSI RADEON™ X1800 XT Memory @ 1.5Ghz

Should I display single, double, or both values on the hwbot spec pages?

http://www.hwbot.org/browseHardwareVideoCards.do

Ater fixing the reported bugs, I'm gonna add a feature that shows a graph of a your result compared to other submitted results with the same hardware, like on futuremark. Easy to do, and it motivates people to claim their scores.