You don't have to check everytime you boot. And with a good WC-setup, you even don't even have to check when you move your system.
It's just like Liquid3D sais:
I was rushing things, I didn't pay attention, it was just my own stupid mistake.

Since that incident, my DVD-drive (lite-on) is making some strange noises. But it still works fine :)

And be very careful with the tubing, pinched tubing specially at the connectors.:D

LMAO :D


you have a real tallent for telling stories Laagvliegerke :super:

Woand I was cryig over a few drops, geez. I guess pain is relative hehe.

I feel I have to express several points about Euro H20, and USa H20 philosophy. After arguing with the pseudo intelectual PhDing-Bats at "ProCatFight" their philosopy, or rather prejudice against European low-flow designs, is further proof of their lack of watercooling knowledge. First, the larger 1/2" tubing used in most USA designs is based on the male-barb, and female hose connection design. This stretches the tubing each time it's forced over the inlet/oulet barb, and eventually a hose will stretch to failure. Each time you remove a hose for any reason, to be safe you must cut a few cm's off the end.

Secondly the USA designs are completely dependent upon pressure. While the design concept does have some benefits, the risks outweigh them. The propensity for leaks, and the obtrusive size of the tubing alone contradicts the ergonimics of MICRO-electronics. Pumps must be larger, ergo their power demands higher, and finally there's more heat exposed to the system. (another reason I mount my pump outseide of the case)

Anyone can attach their CPU block to a Fire Hydrant ad the pressure will probably cool the CPU. But if you need Hook & Ladder Company No9 NYC Fire Dept. to help you throw the heavy tubing over your shoulder, and wedge it into a small PC case, it's not so conveinent. The larger 1/2" tubing is very awkward inside case, and if it's laying up aainst anything it inevitably places it's weight on it. Euro tubing tends be a little more stiff, but is sall unobtrusive, and doesn't flex your videocard into shorting the AGP-slot. There's a much greater propensity for leakage using tubing which must stretch over large 1/2" barbs, and the copartitive weight bewteeen a small european hose, and too large rubber 1/2" hoses plus the weight of the water i those tubes. Eurodesigns are baseed primarily on the insertion clamp, which is safer, easier to use, and dosn't stress the hardware. The fiorce required to pull hose off a barb, compared to pushing in the clamping mechanism on the euro design is like nite and day.

Most importantly, it takes a much more experienced engineer to design a block which will remove as much, and more heat from a CPU or microchip using less pressure, (hence less water) then it does with higher pressure types. Bottom line, designs such as Alphacool, are much more compact, require less power from the system, and ergonoically are years ahead of most USA designs. With all due respect to Danger Den, whom I beleive to be improving with each subsequent design (their TDX especially in Silver is much smaller and cools better).

The physics/hydrodynamics of high pressure designs had me "brainwashed" for some time. Even after trying the CF-1 waterblock, I still leaned towards the huigh pressure concept. Until Alphacool set me their Xtreme ProSet, featring their NexXxos block, which has held the top spots at both Caseumbau and WaterCoolPlanet CPU-cooler charts for almost two months now, convinced me.

I'm currently running their system on a Asus P4C800Ed, cooling a 3.2EE runnning at 3.5GHz, and showing a temp of 20C CPU/ 20C ambeint /20C System. For the last five day the temps haven't exceeded 22C, with a constant system/ambeint temp of 20C to 22C.

each design has good/bad points, the high end kits of both "sides" perform excellent no matter what :)

ps: check your PM/MAIL please L3D

I was sceptical reading your post Liquid but those temps speak for itself :)

I don't know what you mean with the european insertion clamp system though, have you got a pic of this?

If it is what I think you mean then I've never seen it being used in WC kits before, only in pneumatic applications but pressure is all important in that case and I doubt it would work for WC applications.

Sorry about the delay. Yes the nozzles below are what I was referring to, although I believe I've described them incorrectly. On the left is a simple model which still uses a "male" connector, over which the hose stretches and then the screw down crown secures it. This is still much more secure then the USA 1/2" ID tubing, which simply stretches over a male barb, and is secured with a zip-tie, or clamp.

NOW the nozzle on the right (closet to the GPU-block, and standing upright too) simply requires inserting the hose into the female nozzle, and it locks. Notice on the nozzle I stood up, the "teeth" which lock the tubing into place. It seems to be spring loaded, because simply pushing down on the metal insert, allows the hose to pulled free. It's an excellent design, simple and safe!

I don't know what size this tubing is perhaps 1/8"? maybe someone can tell me in metric?

By the way check out the detail in Alphacool's GPU block below, and you may understand why their CPU cooler's are holding first and third place (and some other spots) at both Watercoolplanet's CPU-kuhler chart, and first place at Caseumbau's watercool chart as well. Their really making some high-quality watercooling gear.

well, ive never spilled water on any of my components....i dont even have a w/c system, so that explains it. but when i got my p160 case, and i was moving my system into it. i cut myself good on the sucker and by the time i noticed i had cut myself, i had blood dripping down my motherboard and puddled all over the v/c and everything else....she's definitely claimed as my own:)

well it's the same system as used in pneumatic applications but they got it waterproof apparently :)

WC fitting/hose size here is eather 1/2" or 3/8" where kits almost always use 3/8" fittings/hoses. The connection system from your pic is probably only used in prefab kits. I have never seen it on an enthusiast's WC. In that case it's the same way as you discribe as "american": hose forced over fitting and held in place by an adjustable O-ring.

Alphacool's design is becoming more and more mainstream so I actually would expect quite a few kits to be very close performance wise to the alphacool kit.

I worked for Imperial Eastman and Amphenol more than 15 years ago. Both are International companies.

http://www.imperialeastman.com/

http://www.amphenol.com/index.cfm/fu...t.go/index.cfm

I'm sure they could make "elbow" to resolve the "space" issue. Secondly, the "sure twist" or "bayonet" fitting with compression for quick connect has been available for many years.

Same apps; only they cost more. I remember we use helium to detect leak which is far more superior than using water.:)

I'd say 3/8" is the norm; 1/8" will be too small I believe.

The key point is how it will perform ..... L3D will let us know.:)