Flash you're Radeon 9800 Non Pro to Pro version I found this on the Rage 3D forum. It look's very interesting. With this method you can flash a non-pro to a pro card. :super: Although the method seems to work. I'm a bit hesitant, to screw my brandnew 300 Euro videocard. I have Hercules Radeon 9800 np. According to the same forum thread, my card should have Samsung 3.3ns ram ( a requirement to flash a card, although 2.8ns is better). Is there somebody here who has the same card and tried it already or has the guts to try it? |
try to verify if you have indeed that memory look on the memory chips |
tried it with a sapphire r9800 np. memvoltage remained 2.7v. memoverclock went from 340 to 380. |
Isn't there an other way to OC your 9800 non-pro? As insider says, flashing a brand new €300 card is a bit risky, I'd say. |
flashing radeon's is very easy but to be safe make a backup of the original and then make an bootdisk with an extra line in the autoexec.bat to flash it with the backup, this will work even without a display on the screen so if the flash goes wrong just put that bootdisk in wait a few moments and restart and normally the card will work again |
You make it sound sooooooo simple :) |
actually it is. |
Found this on:Rage 3D forum Quote:
Is it worth flashing my non pro radeon? I think my XP1900+ is creating at bottleneck. I fear that the performance increase will be to small to take the risk. Does someone know how fast you're CPU (minimum) has to be to use the full capacity of the most recent graphic cards? |
With al these new technologies I'm afraid in the future lots of ppl are gonna get screwed over. As in buying a 9800pro ,when it's really is a 9800 flashed... A 9800SE softmodded into a 9800pro ... With amd tbred B's is also possible. After reading this i'm very carrefully about what I buy. Not that i'm not pleased about getting performace cheap ;) Ps. In my early years I have flashed my vid cards many times and have never lost 1. |
that problem was already there with the ATI 8500LE being sold as ATI 8500 retail, after someone flashed the bios of the LE to make it run at 8500 speeds just be careful about what you buy.. |
i think there is a great difference where you buy it!! greetz |
Indeed, if u bought it at Tones or any other store with same reputation. They are forced to take the product back and give u what u paid for. Atleast i think it is. Buying used stuff however is a little trickier. |
You can identify a 9800se quite easily. It has got a 9700 pcb with a floppy power connection. |
Hi, flashed my Hercules 9800np to Pro. Everything went smooth. But as I feared, my CPU (XP1900+) is the main bottleneck: non-pro: AquaMark: 30'011 Q3: 175 UT2k3 Botmatch:48.95 pro: AquaMark: 31'590 Q3: 179 UT2k3 Botmatch: 48.97 So, I don't know what the longterm effects will be on my RAM. So, I don't want to take the risk for a few fps more. So I flashed it back to the original. But I can recommend it if you have a fast system. |
Hello Insider, would you be interested in describing a step by step procedure of your "flashing" the non-pro experience? it would make a great guide for others out there and as always the author will get all the credit! |
This is how I flashed my Hercules 3D prophet 9800 np to Pro. Important: You need to have Samsung (2.8, 3.0 or 3.3ns) in order to flash you're videocard correctly. Ask you're vendor or look at the labels on you're videocard. All Hercules 3D prophet 9800np cards seem to have Samsung 3.3ns memory. Here we go: 1. Created a DOS boot disk (DOS 6.22, to be exact). If you can't make a DOS boot disk, go to: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and download the Dos 6.22 Bootdisk (I used the one without the "meg disk" comment) 2. Created a second floppy disk with the Flashrom program and the 98-8004.BIN file. To download the Flashrom program, click here (copy all three files to the disk) To download the 9800 Pro BIOS, click here. Remember to copy the 98-8004.BIN file to the floppy disk containing the Flashrom program. 3. I made a batch file with the command to restore the backup of my current bios. In case I have no picture after the flash. I only have to reboot using the dos disk, change it with the flashrom disk and type "restore" or "restore.bat" (keep in mind the qwerty) Typed command for restoring in notepad: flashrom -p 0 original.bin ->That's a ZERO before the "original" Stored the file on the flashrom floppy as "restore.bat" 4. Before booting my computer, I removed my videocard in the hardware device panel (my Radeon clockspeeds where at default settings) 5. Rebooted with the DOS 6.22 boot disk. 6. Once I reached the A:\ prompt, I took out the DOS disk and replaced it with the floppy containing Flashrom. 7. I made a backup of the current bios The command for backing up your "original" BIOS is: flashrom -s 0 original.bin (enter) ->That's a ZERO before the "original" It will be saved on the flashrom-floppy 8. Flashing my card to Radeon 9800 Pro At the A:\ prompt, I typed: flashrom -p 0 98-8004.BIN ->That's a ZERO before the "original" 9. Once I received the message notifying of the successful flash, I rebooted my computer. (ctrl-alt-del) Don't press the reset button! 10. Upon loading WinXP, XP detected a "new" hardware and correctly called it "9800 Pro." WinXP automatically re-installed the Catalyst 3.5 drivers. 11. Rebooted WinXP. 12. Everything works: Core and Memory at Pro settings. I ran successful benchmarks of Q3, UT2k3 and Aquamark without artifacts. Note: This is just a guide, I take no responsibillity if anything goes wrong. (With thanks to optimummind from the Rage 3D board ) |
try to run the other UT2k3 benchmark, as the botmatch is designed to stress the memory subsystem and your CPU, not the video card :) |
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Thx :super: for putting my guide on the site. Looks nice :o |
and pretty popular too! "Currently Active Users: 117" =) |
next week i'll have my shaphire 9800 np and i'll let you guys know greetz |
i am having some trouble flashing my 9800 np. i have followed the instructions above to the letter. when i try and back up my vid bios or flash it, i get this error dos/4gw fatal error (1313) cant resolve external reference. i have tried various boot disks, and different dos4gw versions. running winXP sp1 |
Do you have Samsung (2.8, 3.0 or 3.3ns) ramchips on you're card? |
no idea, means i would need to tak eoff the ramsinks, any ways i got it flashed. dos4gw must have been corrupt in some way |
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