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DUR0N 28th November 2002 20:34

Double your FSB: joy joy!
 


still at stock speed, my current cooling solution (copper zalman for AMD) doesn't allow me to overclock it very high. Might try 7x200mhz, it should handel that. (it did 10,5X133)
I'm wainting until my swiftech waterblock with pelt arrives. England is a long way from here :p

DUR0N 28th November 2002 20:59


totaly stable :)
but to hot for me.

jmke 28th November 2002 21:03

when will the swifty arrive ?

DUR0N 28th November 2002 21:12

well, I don't know. That's what irritating me :)
might order the new mcw5000 (releases 1 December) and sell the mcw462 :) Would be a nice comperative review :D

RichBa5tard 28th November 2002 21:38

Wow, is that one of the new 200FSB, €1500 Intel cpu's? Nope, it's a €35 Duron. :D

200FSB roxors for a duron. Which mobo?

DUR0N 28th November 2002 22:25

...and the end is not near yet. my new stick of corsair can go higher (i hope) and the cpu is also willing :)
an old fashion KR7A-r. The raid controller comes in handy, becaus after 170mhz FSB the IDE controllers get quite buggy

RichBa5tard 28th November 2002 23:42

It was just the opposite on my kr7a-r: the riad controller worked flawless up to 190~195FSB, but only the IDE controller would work without errors @ 200+.

keflex 1st December 2002 09:11

Hi duron,

Are you running a duron 1.1 or above? (at stock speeds that is)...i have a 1.3ghz duron - but i'm having trouble unlocking the multipliers - the pencil trick won't work. How did you unlock yours?

cheers,
matt

TeuS 1st December 2002 09:31

Quote:

Originally posted by keflex
Hi duron,

Are you running a duron 1.1 or above? (at stock speeds that is)...i have a 1.3ghz duron - but i'm having trouble unlocking the multipliers - the pencil trick won't work. How did you unlock yours?

cheers,
matt

didn't work either

so, he killed his duron to RMA it and so to obtain a duron that DOES the trick

small problem, you CAN'T unlock a duron 1300:^D

DUR0N 1st December 2002 13:51

well, the cpu is back where it came from. Now just wait and see what happens :p
i'm running the 1,2Ghz version.
i think i found out why the 1,3 can't be unlocked with the pencil trick

DUR0N 2nd December 2002 21:01

i'm not yet sure.
When i've got my duron 1,3 back i will test it and prove my theory ;p

keflex 4th December 2002 03:37

I think I found out the answer - its apparently to do with the 13x multiplier - there is a cut off between the 12.5 and below multipliers and the 13x and above multipliers. According to some threads on overclockers.com you need to reverse the L10 bridge or this pin shorting technique:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...?threadid=1709

It says xp2100 but is supposed to work for the duron 1.3, check out the links in the first posting of this thread.

I'll be trying it out soon..

jmke 4th December 2002 08:08

thnkx for that good info keflex!
we'll poke Duron some more to get his *** in gear & try it out :-)

DUR0N 4th December 2002 12:46

well, you found out what i was thinking.
if you match the duron multipliers with the FSB of 133 you'll get this:
duron 1,2 12x100 = 12x133 = 1900+
duron 1,3 13x100 = 13x 133 = 2100+
and the 2100+ model uses a different method of unlocking.
don't poke me, poke our suplier with shitty rma condtions :)

cR00zIFI><3r 4th December 2002 19:27

but...
First thing to do then, is to reach 133Mhz FSB..
That's alot for a duron...I guess...
We all know you are the duron-meister, but, what cooling do you use, what mobo...
I don't think I'll be able to reach that....

jmke 4th December 2002 19:49

uhm getting the duron @ 133 ain't difficult

u need to cut bridges with a dremel on the Duron 1300 to get the MP unlocked :-)

check unlock xp2100+ guides

cR00zIFI><3r 4th December 2002 19:52

I have a duron 1200...
so the pencil-trick will do it..I guess..

DUR0N 4th December 2002 21:15

kr7a-r as mentioned.
zalman full copper for amd right now (133x10.5 stable as hell)
when i get my friggin swiftech (yes, i've not yet ordered it. Well, i did ordered it by phone twice, but they never noted the order down. I'm mailbombing them right now :] )

Vulk 6th December 2002 14:12



Duron won't go higher because of crappy cooling. Need new, but I can't find any that fits my needs.

Fsb doesn't go higher, ram is at max. (samsung pc2100 cl.2)

DUR0N 6th December 2002 16:16

all duron cpu's (1200-1300) that i overclocked did 1400 no brobs. 1422-1450 were the limits (lo-hi)
i'm doing 133x10,5 with a zalman 6000cu (gets to 45° ) @ 1.85v. You're doing something wrong i guess

Vulk 6th December 2002 16:18

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

keflex 7th December 2002 06:53

Don't worry about it, 182mhz fsb is pretty damn good. Maybe your ram is holding you back a bit, if your're looking for more cpu mhz you aren't going to get much further anyway (maybe 50 -60 mhz as duron said). Try scaling down the ram settings a bit and see if that helps.

As for cooling i'm using a thermaltake volcano 9. works good (only just fits my mobo - abit kt7a). Currently running at 43c @ 1404mhz, on a hot day, with the fan not at full speed.

Vulk 7th December 2002 07:10

I have ordered an thermalright slk800. I hope it fits on my abit board.

DUR0N 7th December 2002 07:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Vulkaantje
I have ordered an thermalright slk800. I hope it fits on my abit board.
It does. 99,99% of all AMD coolers fit your board.

Vulk 7th December 2002 07:33

I've just red some reviews and it should fit. Btw, it seems a killer hs. I hope that I'll reach the 1400mhz now. 3dmark should be higher then... :)

Vulk 7th December 2002 07:46

I found this @silentpcpreview.com


#1 - Thermalright SLK800: There is little question that the SLK800 is a topnotch performer with almost any level of airflow. Its overall design is ingenious and well executed, and extremely user friendly. Its small footprint makes it feasible to install even on motherboards with little room around the socket. We are in agreement with the overclocking and performance community: this is one hell of a HS.

#2 - Thermalright AX7: Beaten out from second spot by the Swiftech only in the extreme airflow contest (which we don't really care about here), the AX7 is an excellent performer and a tremendous value. Like the SLK800, its clip is user-friendly and easy to use, even though its larger size makes it difficult on tight motherboards. Its performance with the 5V Panaflo is an amazing victory -- but remember that the actual temperature reached was in excess of 60° C. If you add 10° C for an approximation of in-case temperature, use of a 5V Panaflo with this HS -- or any other in this round up -- on an XP1600+ or higher power processor is not a safe recommendation.

#3 - Swiftech MC462A: There are good reasons why this model was the kingpin for so long. It retains its edge well against newer competitors sporting more recent technologies. Sheer size and mass, combined with manufacturing excellence and a great mounting system combine for good cooling performance even with low airflow. The performance of its descendants is something I look forward to examining.

#4 - Zalman 6000Cu: Saved from humiliation with its fine high-airflow performance, the 6000Cu suffers in comparison with the other contenders. The soft 2-lug clip is the weakest part of its design, and is probably responsible for the poor showing here. An afterthought following the tests: Does this particular Zalman clip provide enough pressure between the CPU die and the HS base? Weeks of preliminary test setup experimentation meant all of the HS in this survey were mounted and removed from the motherboard many times. It is possible that the Zalman clip suffered more deformation and metal fatigue than the clips on the Thermalright models, causing a reduction in contact pressure. A follow-up on this suspect clip is promised.

DUR0N 7th December 2002 07:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Vulkaantje
I found this @silentpcpreview.com


#4 - Zalman 6000Cu: Saved from humiliation with its fine high-airflow performance, the 6000Cu suffers in comparison with the other contenders. The soft 2-lug clip is the weakest part of its design, and is probably responsible for the poor showing here. An afterthought following the tests: Does this particular Zalman clip provide enough pressure between the CPU die and the HS base? Weeks of preliminary test setup experimentation meant all of the HS in this survey were mounted and removed from the motherboard many times. It is possible that the Zalman clip suffered more deformation and metal fatigue than the clips on the Thermalright models, causing a reduction in contact pressure. A follow-up on this suspect clip is promised.

That's mine for the moment (doing 166x8.5)

Vulk 7th December 2002 09:30

I think that that slk800 will be an overkill for my duron....
But I'm intending to buy a faster cpu...


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