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12th November 2007, 22:27 | #11 |
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| My Toshiba laptop 266mhz lasted more than 10 years before I left it to my relative in China two years ago. My Celeron 1GB is still running as a second PC at my daughter's place. It all depends on the users. Tweakers and overclockers treat their PC as toys rather than tools; they will break them intentionally in a few weeks for kicks.
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13th November 2007, 00:20 | #12 | ||
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I do suspect it is going to become a common thing, circuit pathways are smaller than ever at 45nm and Penryn is the first 100% lead free Intel CPU. Just like the gauge levels for wire the larger the gauge the smaller the wire's width and therefore the less current/heat it can handle before degrading or melting. Intel is using a new lead-free tin-silver-copper alloy for Penryn, so tin whiskers are possible if not likely to occur considering tin whiskers are shown to have a direct relationship with thermal cycling and higher current levels. Lead was the only metal that seemed to almost completely halt the growth of tin whiskers on chips and circuit boards. Not to mention that since the circuit tolerances have been lowered with the shift to 45nm, the negative effects of burn-in might be more applicable? http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.aspx?i=152 I'm not being pessimistic, but one doesn't need a certification in electrical engineering to know there are physical limits on materials, and enthusiasts are going to run into them eventually. Quote:
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One of my kids finished her 4 years (4 not 5) with two degrees using a 233mhz 3-year old laptop. Another one went back to graduate study (still working full time) and will graduate in a few months is using my good old P4 2Ghz running 3.2Ghz since day one at 1.575v Intel Stock cooling.
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13th November 2007, 08:14 | #14 |
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| got a P4 which died a slow death, somebody had pinmodded it , and only noticed this after it broke
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13th November 2007, 20:57 | #15 |
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| I can't stand to use my 2.8 -> 3.4Ghz Northwood comp... Photoshop Elements lags out just with a couple small photos to edit, drove me completely nuts to try and do any image work on it. Would take minutes to do a batch run, longer still if using high resolution images. E6300/Q6600 later Photoshop CS3 loads and runs about as smooth as IE7. Drive array probably helped fix that issue too though, I guess. Only 1.825v?? Rather surprising, since Willamette is 180nm and has a core voltage rating of as high as 1.75v. Intel claims "1.560V-1.75V" for operating voltages. Makes ya wonder about 1.5v or 1.6v on a 45nm chip, doesn't it? Last edited by Kougar : 13th November 2007 at 21:04. |
14th November 2007, 11:46 | #16 |
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| Lol I squuezed 2.15 trough a 45 nm cpu
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14th November 2007, 11:59 | #17 |
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14th November 2007, 16:22 | #18 |
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| It did not overheat; just died without warning. I got it from ebay used; had it for a year.
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