Reservoir TECS

Bosw8er · 27th October 2002, 23:36

Now that i have a powerful silent aircooled system it's time to raise the bar and built and even more silent and more powerful system.

I already have sufficient space inside the modded HX45 for a complete watercooling setup.
But switching to watercooling just gives me a maximum 4 to 5 °C "profit" to my current situation ... and that's just NOT enough to justify the effort.

I thought it would be interesting to put a TEC on the waterreservoir. I would put a HS on the TEC and then experiment with different types of fans (silent ofcourse). The outcome being the water inside the system will be around 15°C instead of 25°C.

This way i wouldn't have any condensation problems and i believe the benificial 10°C drop of the watertemperature justifies the effort.

Feasibility, thoughts, donations, fanmail, ... shoot !

The Senile Doctor · 28th October 2002, 11:44

well, sounds like fun 2 me.

we want pictures of the whole process btw.

what kind of cpu would you cool? amd ?

what tec power do you have in mind?

Bosw8er · 28th October 2002, 12:11

I'll wait for buying my new rig untill i can buy a SATA + Dual Channel DDR - solution which will replace my home system ... proc : we'll see at that time. I'll figure i have the H2O-case ready when that solution is available.

Then i have a KR7A-R + 1800axia at my disposal to put into the H2O-case and to play around with. Maybe ... if i'll feel a sudden urge of worldwide-recognition-need i'll put in an AMD 2.8 at that time. :grin:

Pics : of course

TEC : ssshhhttt, i'm studying

28th October 2002, 13:52

I'd recommend putting the TEC on the radiator
=> larger contact with the water
as I think it may cost some cash (I assume so

), use multiple rads with some TEC's then...

RichBa5tard · 28th October 2002, 14:14

I've seen multiple ppl with the same idea: none really succeeded. Temps didn't drop 10°C, but 1 to 2°C (i think). It had something to do with unsufficïent cooling at the hot side. You'll need a 65CFM fan AT LEAST to keep the pelt from overheating, or an extra waterloop. Even then, the water must flow fast enough through your reservoir, but not too fast...

It's still fun to do, but very hard to make your temps drop...

If you want to do it the easy & fun way, do as I did: stick a couple waterbottles in the freezer and put them in your res when you feel like overclocking. Makes your temp go down 10~15°C and no costs involved...

You'll see that even when you're not using chilled water, H²O cooling is still every penny worth investing: it's as cool as LOUD aircooling, it's pretty, it's fun to toy with and it's quiet....

The newprize of my case + H²O setup is about the same of a promotheia, and I wouldn't switch it for the world. Who cares if your temps are higher if your case is beautiful, silent and good to overclock?

Bosw8er · 28th October 2002, 16:27

Quote:

Originally posted by RichBa5tard
I've seen multiple ppl with the same idea: none really succeeded.

where ? links ? who ?

I knew the hot side cooling would be difficult, that's why i said i wanted to experiment with a quality HS and different fans. As i've drawn it i can put an alpha6045 on the pelt and put an adapter + crafty 80mm papst on it and "duct" it through the plexi door.

But recommended cooling for peltier = water ... and i think i can fit in a second waterloop.

But ... as said .... i'm still reading ...

jmke · 28th October 2002, 17:35

Oppainter had a waterchiller...

Bosw8er · 28th October 2002, 22:57

Hmm, aircooling a TEC and silence is a "no go" apparently.

A second waterloop is an option.

But i'm also looking into placing a second radiator. That won't decrease the idle watertemp, but it'll surely help to get the load temps down.

Another option, can't find the dB it produces though

Bosw8er · 28th October 2002, 23:39

Hmm,

another option is :

- CPU : waterblock : HS : FAN
- 2 rads

... i'll have the water cooled at 3 places .... comes in handy when coming from the cpu over a rad ... to the graca ... pump ... the other rad.

For maximum efficiency i would choose a waterblock with long "channels" going through it so it would benefit from the HS on top.

Putting a TEC between the waterblock and HS would be difficult to cool with silent air-cooling. Under-powering the TEC so i can cool it would be highly ineffective.

TerAngreal · 29th October 2002, 09:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Bosw8er
Another option, can't find the dB it produces though

... $22300 per unit ...

27th October 2002, 23:36	#1
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	Reservoir TECS Now that i have a powerful silent aircooled system it's time to raise the bar and built and even more silent and more powerful system. I already have sufficient space inside the modded HX45 for a complete watercooling setup. But switching to watercooling just gives me a maximum 4 to 5 °C "profit" to my current situation ... and that's just NOT enough to justify the effort. I thought it would be interesting to put a TEC on the waterreservoir. I would put a HS on the TEC and then experiment with different types of fans (silent ofcourse). The outcome being the water inside the system will be around 15°C instead of 25°C. This way i wouldn't have any condensation problems and i believe the benificial 10°C drop of the watertemperature justifies the effort. Feasibility, thoughts, donations, fanmail, ... shoot !

28th October 2002, 11:44	#2
The Senile Doctor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: wherever the doom is Posts: 3,171	well, sounds like fun 2 me. we want pictures of the whole process btw. what kind of cpu would you cool? amd ? what tec power do you have in mind? __________________ OC-2-the-death Where the Reverend is doing his Magick, all mortals be silent Doom over the world

28th October 2002, 13:52	#4
TeuS Posts: n/a	I'd recommend putting the TEC on the radiator => larger contact with the water as I think it may cost some cash (I assume so), use multiple rads with some TEC's then...

28th October 2002, 17:35	#7
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	Oppainter had a waterchiller... __________________

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28th October 2002, 12:11	#3
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	I'll wait for buying my new rig untill i can buy a SATA + Dual Channel DDR - solution which will replace my home system ... proc : we'll see at that time. I'll figure i have the H2O-case ready when that solution is available. Then i have a KR7A-R + 1800axia at my disposal to put into the H2O-case and to play around with. Maybe ... if i'll feel a sudden urge of worldwide-recognition-need i'll put in an AMD 2.8 at that time. :grin: Pics : of course TEC : ssshhhttt, i'm studying

28th October 2002, 14:14	#5
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	I've seen multiple ppl with the same idea: none really succeeded. Temps didn't drop 10°C, but 1 to 2°C (i think). It had something to do with unsufficïent cooling at the hot side. You'll need a 65CFM fan AT LEAST to keep the pelt from overheating, or an extra waterloop. Even then, the water must flow fast enough through your reservoir, but not too fast... It's still fun to do, but very hard to make your temps drop... If you want to do it the easy & fun way, do as I did: stick a couple waterbottles in the freezer and put them in your res when you feel like overclocking. Makes your temp go down 10~15°C and no costs involved... You'll see that even when you're not using chilled water, H²O cooling is still every penny worth investing: it's as cool as LOUD aircooling, it's pretty, it's fun to toy with and it's quiet.... The newprize of my case + H²O setup is about the same of a promotheia, and I wouldn't switch it for the world. Who cares if your temps are higher if your case is beautiful, silent and good to overclock?

28th October 2002, 22:57	#8
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	Hmm, aircooling a TEC and silence is a "no go" apparently. A second waterloop is an option. But i'm also looking into placing a second radiator. That won't decrease the idle watertemp, but it'll surely help to get the load temps down. Another option, can't find the dB it produces though

28th October 2002, 23:39	#9
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	Hmm, another option is : - CPU : waterblock : HS : FAN - 2 rads ... i'll have the water cooled at 3 places .... comes in handy when coming from the cpu over a rad ... to the graca ... pump ... the other rad. For maximum efficiency i would choose a waterblock with long "channels" going through it so it would benefit from the HS on top. Putting a TEC between the waterblock and HS would be difficult to cool with silent air-cooling. Under-powering the TEC so i can cool it would be highly ineffective.