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jmke 24th December 2002 14:43

VIA KT400 Chipset Overclocking
 
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In the search for more performance, I tested 3 brandnew KT400 equipped motherboards, in the hope to outperform my current AMD performance system, based on the KT333 chipset.
http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=39

Bosw8er 24th December 2002 14:52

Nice work !

Should rename it:
"VIA KT400 Chipset si teh suXor ! " :D

What about hyperion (http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=211) ?
What's the influence on the benchies ?

jmke 24th December 2002 15:02

would be cool if:
a) I had the motherboards & other hardware still in my possesion
b) the R9700Pro worked on the KT400 :)

:-)

silencer 24th December 2002 15:41

why didN'T you put a nforceII in the review?

so that we good see how mutch the kt400 sucks ;)

silencer

RichBa5tard 24th December 2002 15:51

Hmmm... not a bad idea silencer.

JMKe, shall I make a quick run of DCDDR running at 133/166/200FSB? It would make a nice comparison. :)

Awesome work by the way. How did you make those 1337 graphs? :ws:

jmke 24th December 2002 16:00

you're kidding right.. about the graphs? :p
Excell man.. please.. go out and buy it, there's a students pack out that includes alot of otherwise very $$$ stuff, for only 100€ or so :)

yes please & add them to the mentioned thread :)

anywayz to answer to Silencer's question: I didn't add the nForce2 cause at the time of testing the nForce2 wasn't out yet :)

but Comtech has shown interest in this, so I might be reviewing 2-3 nForce2 mobo's very soon
Epox & Asus are pretty sure, maybe the Abit will follow also :)

silencer 24th December 2002 16:12

thx for the answer and correction of my English.

btw nice review

silencer

RichBa5tard 24th December 2002 16:17

Here are some epox 8rda+ benches at 7-2-2 CL2:

@133fsb 2075/1997
@166fsb 2582/2468
@200fsb 3104/2920


I don't think sisoft is a good way to bench an nforce mobo though. It cearly states to use 64bit data packets to bench, which is the bandwith of single channel ddr... i wouldn't be suprised if i would get exactly the same results with just 1 stick.


And yes i'll stop being a cheap arse and start spending money on software. :^)

jmke 24th December 2002 16:25

those numbers indeed suck compared to the KR7A @ 200 :)

I know sisoft is not the way to bench/compare motherboards
but reallife gaming software benches weren't possible due to the fact that the R9700Pro failed to work

otherwise I had included:
PCMark2002
3DMark2K1
QuakeIII
Serious Sam
UT2003

I had these done on the KT3, as this was the first motherboard I installed, but.. well.. you know.. a TNT2 doesn't really make it an even challenge :)

RichBa5tard 24th December 2002 16:30

They don't 'suck', but it just doesn't reflect the performance gain you get from dcddr in real life apps.


By the way, this epox nforce˛ at 200FSB is still faster than my ol' KR7A at 205FSB. 3104/2920 <> 3055/2730

jmke 24th December 2002 16:31

yes but it sux concidering it has DCDDR
in real life apps you will find that the gap will be bigger

I hope Mr ICEE's KX7 arrives soon (and of course the XP2200+) , so I can use it to compare to the nForce2 mobo's

RichBa5tard 24th December 2002 16:48

Hmmm, there seems to be a slight difference after all. Except at stock speed:

epox 8rda+ 7-2-2 cl2
@200fsb DCDDR 3104/2920 SCDDR 3021/2793
@166fsb DCDDR 2582/2468 SCDDR 2485/2329
@133fsb DCDDR 2075/1997 SCDDR 2066/1991

jmke 24th December 2002 16:50

well that makes it pretty clear that Sisoft Sandra can't handle DCDDR in a way that you can notice the reallife difference

for once the tables are turned
usually you see a difference in Benchmarks but not in real life apps :)

jmke 29th December 2002 02:27

Received this one by mail, don't have the opportunity to test it out :(
but hope it can help someone out

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way to get a7v8x to work with 9700pro card
go into bios with another card.. set vga card to agp... than try again

i had to do that on a older vidcard i had to make it work on a7v (its a asus thing)

thanks go out to RAdZer0 for this info!

dadilus 30th December 2002 11:35

I have a Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra Platinum and a ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I haven't had any problem with the video card. These video cards and motherboards have a real problem with power supplies that are too small or borderline on voltages. They recommend a 350W or higher. I use a 500W myself. :super:

jmke 30th December 2002 11:40

indeed, I came across this info on other forums, but the system booted fine on the Gigabit & MSI KT3, but failed on the Asus & KT4, I didn't have a 400+watt PSU available so I was unable to test that. But I find it strange it did work on the other 2!

thanks for your comment!
Bosw8er, a local member here, has always been crazy about the Soyo motherboards cause of their all-in-one nature!

you enjoying yours? :)

dadilus 31st December 2002 21:09

Yes, I love it. It's the only motherboard I've used that is that reliable and sets up the same no matter what version you use.

Unregistered 18th August 2003 15:07

Hmm then . . .

What's the best performance setting for the msn kt4 400 with 3200 rambus and Athlon xp 2600 + ???
I mean fsd and other datas ??

jmke 18th August 2003 15:40

afaik rambus never made it to the AMD platform :)
put in the lowest timings
CL2 2-5-2 CMD rate 1T


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