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jmke 5th November 2003 23:11

...request a product (p)review
 
Did you see an interesting hardware piece and wants us to take a closer look, please let us know in this thread.

FireTech 19th July 2006 12:52

HR-05 SLI ;)

jmke 19th July 2006 13:20

The HR-5 is being tested in this roundup http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...threadid=24521 by a fellow reviewer on an Asus K8N Motherboard , but not running SLI afaik, good pics of the setup and layout of the board should give you an idea whether it will fit or not ;)

Rutar 19th July 2006 14:56

definatly the new enermax fans with the electromagnetic drive

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/ne...s_01.asp?id=11


If Enermax isn't getting a sample over here, they miss major Futuremark and SPCR pimping by myself if the fans prove themselves.

Noob47 24th July 2006 04:35

Hello! Loved the Intel CPU Heatsink S775 roundup, but it missed a HSF that seems to be cool enough to be there. I'm talking about the Noiseblocker CoolScraper 120 Rev.2 SX1.
It seems that it can actually rotate 360º, so you can have the airflow the way you want. But then again I’ve heard good things from Tuniq Tower 120. And then there is the all around loved Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1000, I may not be able to rotate it like the CoolScraper, but I can choose where to place the 120 fan. What about the Zalman 7700Cu? Those that have it say it’s a good deal cuz it can cool the hardware around it. And what I would like to see is a review of all of them, with the same fan…. =P That’s all…

Rutar 24th July 2006 04:42

I got something else: PASSIVE heatsinks for Conore roundup.

jmke 24th July 2006 07:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Noob47
Hello! Loved the Intel CPU Heatsink S775 roundup, but it missed a HSF that seems to be cool enough to be there. I'm talking about the Noiseblocker CoolScraper 120 Rev.2 SX1.
It seems that it can actually rotate 360º, so you can have the airflow the way you want. But then again I’ve heard good things from Tuniq Tower 120. And then there is the all around loved Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1000, I may not be able to rotate it like the CoolScraper, but I can choose where to place the 120 fan. What about the Zalman 7700Cu? Those that have it say it’s a good deal cuz it can cool the hardware around it. And what I would like to see is a review of all of them, with the same fan…. =P That’s all…

all the HSF you mentioned have been reviewed already here , except for the CoolScraper which seems to be an EOL product?

Noob47 26th July 2006 15:12

Hum. Ok I'm sorry for missing that HUGE list of reviews :D. Not knowing what EOF is (besides the end of file thing), the CoolScraper is a german HSF from
NoiseBlocker:
http://www.noiseblocker.de/en/index.php

wutske 26th July 2006 17:39

Im curious how well this works.

jmke 26th July 2006 17:43

it's not a VGA chipset, that's for sure:)

@Noob47; I made a spelling boo boo , EOL instead of EOF ;)

End of Life


Noob47 27th July 2006 18:16

Well, I'm from Portugal, and it is relative new around here... Some german reviews say nice things about it. But the again, I liked the way things r tested here.

I just order an Asus P5W DH for a Antec P180 case, and since its design make the CPU + HSF really close to those 120mm fans I wanted to buy the best HSF for it. Ninja is great, but there seems to be better HSFs where there is lot of (or "strong") airflow. HSF with more fins, thus more area, need more CFM to get good results. The tuniq tower seems to be great, but the fan points to the rear (or at least all the ones on the boards I’v seen), and I would rather have pointing Up since hot air goes up, right? Can I rotate the Tuniq Towe 90º? I know this is noobish, but is that possible, or the HSF only has only one direction to mount? The Ninja doesn’t seem to have that problem, cuz I can clip the fan where I want (but the tuniq seems to be better with a good fan), and that Noiseblocker CoolScraper can rotate 360º right in the spot! The fan on all of them r the least, cuz I pretend to buy a better fan...
So, that is way I was asking for a review =)

Rutar 27th July 2006 19:09

for conroe, I think running passive is a very viable option with casefans

pyrlo 19th August 2006 12:08

A conroe processor heatsink roundup would be cool with the newest scythe infinity in it against the tuniq tower 120, thermalright ultra-120, scythe ninja plus and the zalman cnps 9500 :p
Ofcourse tested on an asus p5w-dh motherboard or similar motherboard with passive cooled southbridge to test if the coolers are motherboard-friendly without any adjustments to do.

jmke 19th August 2006 13:14

uhm http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...threadid=26375

:)

pyrlo 19th August 2006 14:54

that's supercool :D
i didn't notice the thread but that's certainly a positive answer :D
unfortunatly without the tuniq tower 120 which was (one of) the best cooler previously.
but tnx a lot :p

jmke 19th August 2006 15:38

the new heatsinks tested are compared to:

# Aerocool Dominator
# Arctic Cooling Alpine 64
# Spire DiamondCool II
# Spire VertiCool II
# Scythe Katana CU
# Scythe Mine
# Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
# Tuniq Tower 120
# AMD Stock Cooling *
# AMD’s new Heat pipe Stock cooling *
# Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 *
# Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro *
# Asus X-Mars *
# Coolermaster Susurro *
# Noctua NH-U 12 *
# Noctua NH-U 9 *
# Sharkoon Red Shock *
# Silverstone NT02 *
# Scythe NCU-2000 *
# Scythe Ninja *
# Scythe Samurai Z *
# Scythe Shogun *
# Thermalright XP-90C *
# Thermalright XP-90 *
# Thermalright XP-120 *
# Thermalright HR-01 *
# Thermalright SI-120 *
# Thermaltake Big Typhoon *
# Zalman CNPS9500CU *

pyrlo 19th August 2006 19:26

wooooow that's a huge list :D:D
i can't wait to read the review :p:p:p

pyrlo 6th September 2006 13:43

Maybe another cool roundup about +200 euro cases where you compare wich is the best price/performance +200 euro case or something like that. Anyway I would love to see a review of the lian li pc-201 black. I know there's a short comparison on anandtech with beautiful high quality pictures and there's a more bigger review on overclockerscafe but those pictures suck hard. I would love to see the case in high quality pictures with a mobo and few hard disk installed or something like that. So you really get a clear view of the case. Especially when there are a lot of pictures :D

jmke 7th September 2006 12:09

I like the idea, but up until now I've never had the stockage room to get several cases to compare at the same time; maybe in the future in a bigger house I can do that;)

pyrlo 10th September 2006 12:16

i hope you get a bigger house soon lol :D

Niluje 15th September 2006 09:23

I'd like to see a review of a lian li case : pc-v300

I think this case has a very good design and will stand very well on my desk but there is not enough information about it and I'd like to know what you think about...

I on't want a comparative because I know you need space, just a review, or a little comparative with the Silverstone sg-01 evolution which is an other small case.

pyrlo 6th December 2006 15:54

i would like to see a comparisson between several 120 mm fans:
all of them tested on 12, 7 and 5 volt with cfm/noise grafieken and subjectif noise opinion.
the noise and cfm have to be tested with advanced equipment as the numbers of the manufacterers are not measured on the same way.


cooler master TLF-S12 LED series 1220 rpm
Nexus Real Silent 120 mm case fan 1000 rpm
Papst 4412F/2GL 1600 rpm
Papst 4412F/2GLL 1200 rpm
Scythe S-Flex 1200 rpm
Sharkoon SilentEagle 1000 1000 rpm
Sharkoon SilentEagle 2000 2000 rpm

Why these fans: many websites claim they're (one of) the best except for the cooler master ledfan but i would like to see how far it would fall behind the non-led fans. I didn't include some toppers like noctua NF-S12-1200or even yate loon fans (which are praised to heaven on xtremesystem forums) because they are (almost) not available in belgium/netherlands and probably also not in many other european shops. That's why i want these fans to be compared to have an idea of what you really can buy with your money around the corner.

jmke 6th December 2006 15:58

we tested all those already at the site... :)
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=articles#15

goingpostale1 7th December 2006 20:07

-removed lol, I was confused

sgtspiff 13th December 2006 10:07

I would like to see mATX motherboards tested.

And also if possible comparing VIA, Intel and Nvidia motherboard chipsets.

The scythe quiet drive compared with other HDD cooler/dampeners.

SuAside 16th December 2006 11:15

Antec Nine Hundred

http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=08009


or well, i might give you a user review of it when i decide to buy it myself ^^

jmke 16th December 2006 12:29

finished my tests on the Antec 900 with an Opteron/7900GT system, waiting for Core 2/8800GTX system to arrive to do some "hotter" VGA tests in the case :)



with the fans all set to LOW speed, at 50cm dBA meter registers ~3dBA over ambient measured from the front, which is not bad at all; cooling excellent with the large 200mm fan at the top, a tower cooler on your CPU will work best I think, since both rear 120mm and top fan are removing hot air from the CPU area. The 2x120mm fans in the drive cages provide fresh airflow to the GPU area, and you can optionally install a 120mm in the side panel if you really want things very cool, but it's not needed to get good cooling.

SuAside 16th December 2006 16:55

i doubt a hotter gfx will make much difference :)

but as linked in the other thread i made: http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2006...Hundred/4.html
length seems to be a bigger issue (but only if you use a drive or cage on that spot)

jmke 16th December 2006 19:05

I removed the extra FAN holder on that drive cage, you can mount on one of the drive cages a 120mm fan , front & back of it, not really needed, no HDD is that hot, and VGA cooling can be had from the side fan:)

KTMitch 31st January 2007 00:31

I'd like to see the XClio A380 case reviewed. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103010

And maybe also the XClio Windtunnel. http://www.xclio.com/product/wind_tu...unnel_page.htm

There aren't many reviews out on either of these. From the limited reviews and ratings on Newegg, they seem to be quality cases, but I'd still like more of a professional opinion.

jmke 31st January 2007 05:50

interesting designs, will see if I can get a contact at XClio

SuAside 31st January 2007 13:38

that A380BK is one ugly puppy :)

as for the insides of the wind tunnel thing: almost looks like an exact copy of older Chieftec designs.

jmke 31st January 2007 14:10

the hard drives seems to be on rails, and does look like a very sturdy steel chassis to work with, but in my experience, airflow from the side panel, doesn't have very large impact on performance; when I added 4x120mm fans to the 830 Evo I recently tested, temps dropped by only few degrees. Adding better/faster in-take /out-take fans front/rear seems to have the most effect, as all the components and heatsinks inside are designed with airflow from front->back in mind

KTMitch 31st January 2007 16:56

Alright, thanks. I didn't even think about the direction of air movement.

I was also wondering about the Antec P180(B). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017

The reviews are outstanding, but I'd still like another opinion.

Two of my major concerns about any of the cases are cooling efficiency and noise output. Pertaining to those two specific concerns, what other cases would you suggest?

jmke 31st January 2007 17:01

SilentPCreview did an excellent evaluation of noise vs cooling of the P180 here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article255-page1.html

I hope to see the Antec P190 at Cebit this year, maybe we can get one for evaluation.

picking one case to be "the choice" is impossible, as it all depends on what you need; the case by itself is dead silent, it's what you put inside which will make the noise, it starts by selecting a cool & quiet PSU, checking that there are no fan's on the mobo chipset, a good CPU cooler, silent HDDs, quiet VGA, etc. The case is only a building block, if you put load gear into the P180, all it's noise preventing features won't help much....

KTMitch 2nd February 2007 21:15

I've read the P180 review on SPCR, but I find that some of their reviews are overshadowed by their excessive need for a silent case (seeing that is what the website specializes in); irrelevant whether that means sacrificing performance.

While yes, noise (or lack there of) is important to me; the ability to cool a powerful system matters much more. I cannot seem to find any review of the P180 where they have installed a DX10-BASED VGA, a Core 2 Duo CPU, or many other new technologies. Most websites worried about sound install particularly quiet components (for the most part), and websites worried about cooling install cool components. I'd like a review that installs average components, and then perhaps extreme performance components to see how this case does with cooling and noise reduction.

I hadn't heard about the P190 before. Do you think that the changes will make an improvement of the case, or simply create more noise?

While this isn't an idea for a product review, I do have another suggestion. As I read through the reviews (specifically for cases in my instance), I have trouble comparing case to case. If there was a rating system, or a comparison chart that allowed people to compare components beside each other, it would make the decision process much easier. Another way is perhaps a dynamic ranking system, such that each component reviewed is given a rank compared to the other components. So any viewer wondering what case Madshrimp feels is best, could look at the rankings and very easily tell. Now, I have no experience in such an idea. I have no clue to whether it would be even plausible to do. But I do think it would make comparisons between products dramatically easier.

As a question of general interest, what case do you use, jmke?

jmke 2nd February 2007 22:37

when I get more free time, I plan to fill this dbase up to with plenty of details: http://www.madshrimps.be/caselist/

that should help sort through the different cases & options.

the Core 2 system I used for Antec & CM review, I plan to use on all future case reviews to, so performance & noise numbers can be compared between my reviews.

I went from my first case AOPen HQ08 to a Chieftec Maxi Tower, to my now current case since February 2003 http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/s...ead.php?t=1564 - A Coolermaster Midi Tower; I replaced front in-take fans last years with 1x92mm fan, and removed the top fan; silent & cool still; although I doubt it'll fit the Geforce 8800 GTX, haven't tried to to fit it yet, have to say it's a long case, so I might so go without issue:)

A scoring system for reviews is not very future proof, as time goes by the older case you get lower scores, but going back to each old review and updating the scores would take up too much time in my humble opinion

KTMitch 3rd February 2007 12:21

I hadn't run across the case comparison list before. Perhaps it would be more evident if you posted a link to it near the case review list. It is a nice resource.

If you’re not ready to shoot me yet, I have some more component suggestions:

The ABIT AW9D-MAX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127011. The reviews are very good on this Motherboard. I was wondering specifically about audio quality of the onboard sound processor.

And the Intel BLKD975XBX2KR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121060. Both of these boards are very similar. My question being; which would be better worth the price?

Thanks for your quick and descriptive responses. I really do appreciate them.

jmke 3rd February 2007 12:31

Hey KTMitch, my pleasure, one of our reviewers (Thorgal) got a bad axe rev 2, I'll ask him to post some comment on it, he's had the Bad Axe rev1 and few other Core 2 boards to 'play' with.

the reason the caselist link is not public yet, the database is too empty to serve any purpose at the moment and need to do some more coding to streamline everything:)

KTMitch 3rd February 2007 13:31

Thanks again. I've been looking for some reviews on the new Bad Axe for a while. The few that I have found weren't very in-depth.

I'll definitely be telling my friends about Madshrimp. My experience (partially because of your wonderful help) is top-notch.

I'll be looking forward to you completing the Case list.


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