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jmke 22nd October 2003 18:40

Howto Connect your PC to your TV (TV-Out in action!)
 
One "handy-dandy" how-to guide for making use of that TV-Out on your graphics card by our local TV guru DUR0N



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Every now and then I hear questions about the TV-out on people's videocards.
"What is it for? Can you connect a TV to it? Can you REALLY connect a TV to it? Sure? Wow, that's great. How do I do that?"
Answering these questions once is funny. Anwering them twice is ok. Anwering them three times and it's getting a routine. I was sooooo mad and tired of people asking me how to connect a TV to a PC, I actually conquered my lazyness and wrote this howto.
Don't ask that question again. Ever. RTFM. Period.
http://www.madshrimps.be/gotohowto.php?howtoID=37

[-Ampora-] 22nd October 2003 19:02

h4nd|g !


:hello: *ty*

the maniak 22nd October 2003 23:26

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Select PAL/NTSC, resolution (640x480 or 800x600, only expensive LCD TV screens can handle 1024x768, not much more I think)

My normal tv can use any resolution I want. But if i use it on 1024*768, a small font isn't easy to read

on 800*600 it's a lot better to read

graka = connect3d 9500 PRO

[Bonbon] 23rd October 2003 05:54

i think a lot of people dont understand the primary screen issue
(divx on monitor = ok , but on tv : black screen)

Unregistered 23rd October 2003 18:23

I have a Radeon 9500 (nonpro) and when I connect it to my tv, I notice that my Tv-out still isn't selectable as if it were not connected. With the latest drivers I can enable FORCE TV OUT and then it works perfectly => PROBLEM SOLVED

On my laptop I have a Radeon Mobility and with those drivers I can't force TV-out so I can enable it even when it's connected... What could be the problem and solution ?

DUR0N 23rd October 2003 19:13

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Originally posted by the maniak



My normal tv can use any resolution I want. But if i use it on 1024*768, a small font isn't easy to read

on 800*600 it's a lot better to read

graka = connect3d 9500 PRO

no, you can't :p
your tv card converts the 1024 signal to ~600x~500 (PAL/NTSC standards)

@unreg dude:
your tv doesn't send an 'active signal trough the cable, you can fake this by soldering a resistor between some points (you are using s-video right?) but i'm not sure which ones/what resistor is needed. atm. i'll get back on that asap :)

the maniak 23rd October 2003 20:33

but why can i adjust the resolution then

I see a big difference between 1024*768 and 800*600

DUR0N 23rd October 2003 21:13

Quote:

Originally posted by the maniak
but why can i adjust the resolution then

I see a big difference between 1024*768 and 800*600

it's like resizing a 4Mpixel movie to a 3Mpixel one.
why would they build tv's which support 1024 if the max reolution is ~600x~500 ?

clochard69 24th October 2003 00:53

ik vraag me nu gewoon af hoe ik het geluid van mijn tv via de surround van men pc kan laten gaan.

andersom is een makkie alsook beeld op je pc krijgen.

kan logisch zijn, heb er een klein vermoeden van maar heb gewoon nog geen tijd gehad om het uit te proberen.

dank bij voorbaat

grtz cloche

Unregistered 25th October 2003 12:30

Nice article..I like the faq. :D

DUR0N 25th October 2003 19:42

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Originally posted by clochard69
ik vraag me nu gewoon af hoe ik het geluid van mijn tv via de surround van men pc kan laten gaan.

andersom is een makkie alsook beeld op je pc krijgen.

kan logisch zijn, heb er een klein vermoeden van maar heb gewoon nog geen tijd gehad om het uit te proberen.

dank bij voorbaat

grtz cloche

gaat niet zonder een TV tuner kaart.
ge moet zien dat ge uw geluid uit het RF signaal kunt halen, en dat kan alleen maar met een TV tuner kaart of iets dergelijks.

the maniak 25th October 2003 20:07

gewoon uw geluid van de tv via scart aansluiten op de line in van uw geluidskaart

DUR0N 25th October 2003 23:14

dan moet uw tv een scart hebben die ook signalen kan versturen, en bij vele tv's is dit weggelaten

clochard69 26th October 2003 00:53

wel zo ne scart kunt ge gaan kope in een elektro zaak eh, en kheb audigy 2 platinum, dus line in is geen probleem.
maar hoe wordt dit dan afgespeeld, met een bepaald programma of gebeurt dit automatisch als alle kabels op hun plaats zitten?

alvast bedankt voor de respons

the maniak 26th October 2003 01:00

da gebeurt automatisch

ja zolang uw line in nie gedempt is he

DUR0N 28th October 2003 23:22

updated ;)

Sarcastro 7th November 2003 21:58

Great article!

One little note though;

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Q: Can I use 2 monitors+TV?
A: No, that's just wanting to much :)
Matrox Parhelia supports 2 screens and a TV

Oh! And you need to get an I/O shield Duron.:D

DUR0N 8th November 2003 00:11

it's one of the key features of the parhelia, normally cards are made for the graphics/speeds and not for the functions (parhelia, matrox G series, 3dlabs wildcat,...)

Unregistered 14th November 2003 13:25

how do you get the video output from the pc to be in widescreen format (16:9) for widescreen tvs?

DUR0N 15th November 2003 11:00

the program that you use to output the signal has to be able to convert the image to 16:9.

Unregistered 1st December 2003 12:08

Well, I was following the article and everything is working just perfectly.

The only thing is that the TV doesn't display any kind of movie (neither DVD or DivX). Everything else works though (games, applications, etc.).

Do you have any idea what should I do to view my movies on the TV?

jmke 1st December 2003 12:13

What videocard are you using?

Roswell 1st December 2003 17:22

Probably ATI...

You have to go to your settings and make your TV the PRIMAIRY screen. See attachment:

Falco 6th December 2003 10:42

They Say that S-video has much beter TV-Quality then the Scart connector? is that true?

DUR0N 6th December 2003 12:15

well, scart is a bunch of standards together. If you got a scart cable (shielded properly) i think that wil give the best quality.
But all is subjective, you will never see the diference. So what's the point then in buying such a expensive scart cable?
Imo scart is only usefull when you got a phat dvdplayer with RGB out, which gives a real visual improvement.

Unregistered 12th January 2004 21:38

Hi guys, here's another question for you.
I've got a PCI GeForce2 MX400, with a tv-out (s-video)
Connected this one to my TV using such a scart block, wherein i plugged a s-video cable, and the white and red audio connectors.
i put a channel on AV on the TV.
Switched my puter on, used TV-tool, and set it on NTSC (thats the only way i get a coloured image) and pressed the big green shiny button :D

Now what i get to see on the TV is the channel on the background (snow, cuz it's an empty channel), and in the foreground the PC screen, 50% visible if u know what i mean, so they're a little mixed up.

anyone know how i can fix this problem?

Thanks in advance,
Bored

DUR0N 14th January 2004 15:40

if you live in the US or china-> NTSC
else PAL :)
try to change the AV channel, some TV's have several AV channels.
snow means interference so i suggest you check the cables, there might be a bad one. And are you using the block as an input or an output (different pins for that, some blocks have a switch to change between them, some of them don't)
is the sound ok?
does the VCR work properly on the AV channel?

LowBasic 14th January 2004 16:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Roswell
Probably ATI...

You have to go to your settings and make your TV the PRIMAIRY screen. See attachment:


if you put both your TV and your computer screen on that "round thingy" DivX works just fine
your screen will be adapted to your TV (same frequency)

Unregistered 23rd May 2004 12:23

Hi wandered if anyone could help, i think its all connected up right. (Its greyscale on AV channel) but i cant get the image on TV :(

I have 9600 btw

DUR0N 23rd May 2004 16:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Hi wandered if anyone could help, i think its all connected up right. (Its greyscale on AV channel) but i cant get the image on TV :(

I have 9600 btw

what do you mean? grayscale means you can see the image on your TV, but it's only in black'nwhite

187(V)URD@ 23rd May 2004 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Falco
They Say that S-video has much beter TV-Quality then the Scart connector? is that true?
indeed svideo = better quality.

DUR0N 24th May 2004 20:13

Quote:

Originally posted by 187(V)URD@


indeed svideo = better quality.

if you use pure golden cable with 2cm of shielding and packet with feriet (dunno the english name), maybe you'll see a small difference :)

187(V)URD@ 24th May 2004 20:48

I tested several cabels , with some i didn't had colour on my old tv :p

Alse depends on grace and tv.

I had a scart with good newer tv and gf4ti and had nice quality tbh.
tested it with 9600pro and didn't had colour , so i modded a cable to a svideo (actually my dad did).

but i prefer svideo :)

jonesy 24th June 2004 13:48

I've got a Hercules all in wonder 9800, trying to connect to tv through as scart adaptor. Just get greyscale. If I use the s video direct to the input on the tv no problem glorious technicolor. Any ideas where the problem might be?

jmke 24th June 2004 14:06

so the set up is

9800 ---> S-Video out ----------------> Scart connector --> TV ?

187(V)URD@ 24th June 2004 15:36

Quote:

Originally posted by jonesy
I've got a Hercules all in wonder 9800, trying to connect to tv through as scart adaptor. Just get greyscale. If I use the s video direct to the input on the tv no problem glorious technicolor. Any ideas where the problem might be?
Got also a scart adaptor ( for 4 scarts ) .
This thing doesn't work with tvout so you need to view it with s-video or just one scart (sometimes scarts won't work , no matter what you do)

DUR0N 25th June 2004 09:54

Quote:

Originally posted by jonesy
I've got a Hercules all in wonder 9800, trying to connect to tv through as scart adaptor. Just get greyscale. If I use the s video direct to the input on the tv no problem glorious technicolor. Any ideas where the problem might be?
scart has a svideo in and svideo out, and some blocks don't have connections for both. make sure your block has the necessairy imputs, not outputs.
Also, if you use scart, your TV will probably use another channel then the s-video channel. Switching to another AV channel might work.

jonesy 25th June 2004 15:55

:ws: Sorted, easy when you know how, I put the s vid to scart adaptor from the pc into AV2 instead of the RGB, played with the remote and bingo color!!!
#Thanks for the help guys

wanrosli 25th February 2005 18:14

I'm not sure if somebody has actually address this problem but I'm going to ask anyway coz I'm running out of ideas!

Here's my prob..

I've got a Laptop (Fujitsu Siemens AMILO D 1840) with ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 on it. Just bought a Panasonic TV (TX28PM1) few weeks ago. Both have got S-Video on it (4 pins), [at the back of the laptop and in front of the TV (AV3)]. When I connect them together with an S-Video cable all I got was a clear black and white picture/screen on the TV (no colour). I've no problem with the sound. I have tried using the S-Video to Composite converter but still get the same thing (no colour). Also tried the scart but still the same. But when I tried connecting my Sony Handycam and my DVD player to the TV directly via the same S-Video cable it works just fine. I've tried all available settings on the Display Settings (PAL B, D, G ... I.. NTSC etc) but still no colour!! All I got was the same black and white screen on the TV. I've also tried connecting my laptop to a Philips TV and the same thing happen. Is my graphics card not compatible with my TV or there is something else that I need to do?? I'm sure there is someone out there with the same problem as mine.

Oh...could someone also tell me whether screen refresh rate has anything to do with this colour problem?? because i noticed that my TV runs on 50Hz and my laptop runs on 1280 x 800 True Colour (32 Bit) 60 Hertz. Should I change my laptop to 50Hz as well to get the colour and if so how to do that? because I think the lowest rate it has got is only 60Hz.

PLEASEEEE HELPPP MEEEEEE..... TQ!
-LI-

DUR0N 25th February 2005 20:48

So, your TV sits listening on the AV3 channel, s-video, you're using PAL (They use PAL in the UK right? If else, use NTSC. I guess it's NTSC since you guys over there are pretty america-minded)
Reboot every time you change a setting, sometimes that helps.
The refresh rate of your TV-out is locked to the NTSC/PAL setting, so no problems there, if the right setting is applied.


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