beerke

Not bad at all, with that stock stuff, especialy the tim :grin: . AS5 or pcm+ would lower your temps even more i think.

Sidney

Just to show what the stock TIM can do

Both Intel & AMD have enough certified engineers to fill a stadium parking lot, with enough PhDs to fill a large theatre, I never believe they have to rely on much smaller companies to design heatsink and formulae thermal paste. If they want to do things wrong, they could do it easily.

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lazyman

Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

Rutar

the problem is they do not rely on smaller companies

AC has far more knowlegde on making a cheap heatink that covers the users main concern with a stock heatsink, Silence. They also managed to put a higher quality paste directly on a heatsink so it's easy to use which is the number 1 limitation for other products.


Look at their Silencer 64 and Alpine line as well as the Silent series for socket A. Don't even get me started about stock VGA heatsinks. The RMA costs for dead 9xxx series cards because of the POS stock heatsink exceeds the cost of putting on a real cooling solution.

jmke

AMD is able to make faster and more efficient CPU than Intel. Their problem is that they don't have the means to get more of their product on the market.

they are too small to compete in numbers with Intel. Same reason why Smaller companies don't have the means to provide large companies with the product they need

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Sidney

Selling a heatsink in low price /= making a heatsink in low cost

I tested AC heatsink when they first started selling in the U.S. and, if you don't overclock any certified heatsink is good enough; an inexpensive fan controller will make any fan silence, hence many tests are done with 12, 7 and 5v.

This review is to present to the readers what AMD has done in improving its PIB heatsink. As an AC fan, you (Rutar) represent what you like in a small percentage of user.

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lazyman

Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

jmke

Q: Do they come only bundled with Opteron 165?
A: So far from what we can tell from user experience these new heatsinks come with Athlon X2 above 3800+ and any Opteron S939 Dual Core Chip.

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kennyb

So how hot?
I'm idling at 30-32C with the stock heatpipe and looking to oc when i have some spare time. What are the temp ranges i should be wary of? Max 50C under load? Or can i go higher?

Sidney

There are three different settings with temps listed in the article. Am I missing something, or I don't know what you are asking for.

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lazyman

Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

jmke

yes, if you keep under 50°C you will have a nice overclock; if you are running overclocked and the temperature goes above 50°C chance of your system crashing due to instability with the OC will increase.

if you want to play safe, find the maximum overclock, run 100Mhz lower and don't worry

anything over 60°C with OC CPU is looking for problems.

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Rutar

*checks AC EBIT*

The price they are selling it in the retail channel is WITH warranty, WITH shipping, WITH administration costs for selling it retail. Those costs would be taken over by the company who would ship the main product with the AC solution preinstalled so the price that would have to be paid for the heatsink by AMD would be lower than what the retail price-profit is right now.

So it would be definatly beneficial to outsource cooling design to people who have better knowledge of it.

It's just that no company had the idea to really push a major producer of motherboards/CPUs/GPUs to actually do it. Or they lack the sheer production capacity.