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TiTuS 27th October 2004 11:19

prijswatch.be status ?
 
Ik weet niet of dit de juiste plaats om dit te posten maar ik doe het toch maar.

prijswatch.be wordt al enkele dagen doorgestuurd naar madshrimps.

Iemand enig idee waarom ? En wanneer prijswatch terug online zal zijn ?

Cheers!

TiTuS :hello:

jmke 27th October 2004 11:21

Prijswatch is no more
http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...&threadid=9468

tutin 27th October 2004 12:18

Ok that sucks :/

Pricewatch was a very nice place to both advertise and to search for goods. One of the few free services..

Is there any chance that the project will be back up anytime ?

If no, we should consider re-making something like it, again for free use..

I'd be up to the challange what's your oppinion guys ?

TiTuS 27th October 2004 12:18

ah crap

slecht nieuws!

op zoek naar een alternatief dan maar :s

jmke 27th October 2004 13:09

alternatief: http://www.tweakers.net/pricewatch

TiTuS 27th October 2004 13:24

Ik vermoed met genoeg klanten die abonnementen nemen dat jullie prijswatch.be wel zouden kunnen laten verderlope....

als je het alternatief van tweakers bekijkt is het goedkoopste abonnement: 180€ per kwartaal excl BTW en dan moet je nog handmatig je prijzen ingeven en kan je maximaal 15 prijzen per categorie hebben.

Meer info hier

180€ per kwartaal is 720€ op jaarbasis (excl btw) dat moeten er al heel wat references komen wil je dat eruit halen en moet je veel tijd hebben om manueel alles bij te houden!

lang leve prijswatch!

ps: ik als shop hield wekelijks mijn prijzen up to date via de handige bot!

jmke 27th October 2004 13:51

Quote:

Originally posted by TiTuS
Ik vermoed met genoeg klanten die abonnementen nemen dat jullie prijswatch.be wel zouden kunnen laten verderlope....
hallo, zoals vermeld in the vorige post ontbreekt het aan mensenkracht en tijd; geld speelt daar geen rol in; want om het betalend te kunnen laten draaien moet er tijd worden ingestoken; hetgeen ik en Boerteun niet hebben.

dus ipv een slechte service (ik zeg niet uw shop) in het algemeen, verkiezen we het project stop te zetten.

TiTuS 27th October 2004 14:44

Is geen verwijt hoor JM ;)

ik bedoel gewoon dat als je zulke prijzen "durft" vragen je wel volk zal vinden om service aan te bieden, dat is enorm van prijs, dan zie je maar hoe "vriendelijk" madshrimps - prijswatch was met hun gratis dienst!

TomG 6th January 2005 16:21

Ik zie wel dat er terug een lijst van Shop's staat vermeld.

Enig idee of niemand anders het initatief gaat overnemen?

TiTuS 6th January 2005 16:24

Het ziet ernaar uit dat boerteun beetje bij beetje het project terug opstart
ik zie in mijn referals weer een deel komen van prijswatch.be

TomG 6th January 2005 16:25

Quote:

Originally posted by TiTuS
Het ziet ernaar uit dat boerteun beetje bij beetje het project terug opstart
ik zie in mijn referals weer een deel komen van prijswatch.be

Hoop doet leven. :ws:

tutin 6th January 2005 18:30

yes there is... of course its all gratis like prijswatch was..

www.pricetracker.be

Forward this to other shops at your will.

wutske 6th January 2005 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by tutin
yes there is... of course its all gratis like prijswatch was..

www.pricetracker.be

Forward this to other shops at your will.

Not as good as prijswatch (yet ?) tough?

TiTuS 6th January 2005 21:02

kvermoed dat succes voor om het even welke site/forum pas kan gegarandeerd worden als er genoeg 'actieve' users zijn :)
voor mij part, elke initiatief is goed! en ik hoop eens ingeschreven een aantal referals te zien op mijn site www.bluewizard.be

tutin 6th January 2005 21:05

Quote:

Originally posted by HardFreak


Not as good as prijswatch (yet ?) tough?

All suggestions are welcome. It's your site, we all need free pub and users need comparison engine for small shops so don't hesitate to register and post items.

There are no rules :)

wutske 6th January 2005 21:17

I think it needs some publicity, gonna send some mails. :super:

tutin 10th January 2005 06:49

Hi guys.

I was hoping to see you on the site this weekend, if you have any trouble with entering the data or the bot just let me know.

By the way, I'd love to see a word from you in the forum area, there's a subject from 2compute.net (the first post on the site forums) cussing over this initiative, which is hard to comprehend for me. I'd love to see your oppinion on this.

May be I made a mistake putting my effort and money into this website. The 2 posts from those guys are almost like i'm to be condemned for commercial espionage for making such a bad bad unethical website. :-/

Some people never cease to amaze me, but hey, that must be life, some like you, some don't. Some just don't like anything.

Gamer 10th January 2005 06:59

wouldn't it be better if you made the site in Dutch ?

ps, good initiative, don't let it go down because one shop doesn't know where it stands for.

TomG 10th January 2005 07:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Gamer
wouldn't it be better if you made the site in Dutch ?

ps, good initiative, don't let it go down because one shop doesn't know where it stands for.

Ik vraag me ook af waarom dit in het Engels moet, dit is toch geen internationaal project?

Verder goed initatief.

Ik heb ook de posts gelezen over 2compute, en vind hun aggressieve reacties wat ongoochelend, zeker omdat ik daar zelf al wat dingen gekocht heb en er ook tevreden van was.

TiTuS 10th January 2005 08:28

I agree on the dutch part :)
Engels is standaard, maar is in dit geval zeker niet nodig denk ik.

On the other hand, zeer goed initiatief! Negatieve reacties krijg je ALTIJD! Je moet maar zien hoe je ermee omgaat hé

tutin 10th January 2005 08:34

Thanks for the responses, nice to see not everyone thinks like that.

Dutch / french is no problem either. I can make the site auto-translate rather easily, just got to get my man to do the strings in dutch, I can do them in french too. If you want to translate to dutch (and it should be quite little and easy) you're more than welcome to ;)

I'll get on that in the coming days for sure.

TiTuS 10th January 2005 08:39

now I understand why you use dutch, your french speaking ! (CP 1070)

I've read the reply of 2compute.net and I can understand why they would have a weird feeling giving prices to their competitors. On the other hand prices aren't a public secret.

I'm still willing to put effort into the project myself for my webshop www.bluewizard.be however if I notice your shop would turn out best at any time (eg: price update from me would invoke an automatic price update of your prices I will stop any effort, but I think this is a normal reaction isn't it?

jmke 10th January 2005 08:52

JMke here, ex-co-operator of www.prijswatch.be;

I don't know where you got the idea that
a) Boerteun has a webshop (he's student)
b) Prijswatch made money (we never got a dime for it)

just to clear things up. having a pricewatch site run by a shopowner can and will be looked upon with a distrusful eye, for sure!

www.prijswatch.be was an independant project, done by people who don't have anything to do with webshops, besides price collecting.

tutin 10th January 2005 09:22

Then this is my mistake, I mentioned in my post, i thought he did, though i wasnt sure and frankly - i don't really find this important in any way. A developer is a developer, whether he works on the docks, is a student or has a computer shop.

As for prijswatch making money - that was exactly my point. Prijswatch never made a dime out of it. 2Compute people make it sound like there's a big profit i'm about to take out of this. It's quite the opposite, i invest not only time but also money (hosting, google ads etc).

My one and ONLY intention with this site is to put back something that is much missed - the free price engine that prijswatch was.

Should have prijswatch not closed doors, i would have never even thought of doing this.

But after one year of paying insane amounts to Kelkoo with close to 0 return of investment, prijswatch down, i thought it was about time something be done about it.

On the other side as you say, it may be regarded in a way beause it's me doing it, but hey, somebody's gotta do something for the good of all, no ? I would think this should regarded as a good deed and not as it seems to be by certain individuals.

I don't see how I can prove the good will of this initiative more than giving pretty much full administrative rights to every shop owner. There's NOTHING literally NOTHING more I can do with my account then anyone else can. I can just post prices and use the bot for auto-updates. That's it. Point finale.

I would love to see you guys more as co-owners rather than anything else. This is our website, why not make a good use of it ? It's success depends on us - shop owners. End users only come when they have something to see, and when there is - then they'll redirect to your shops because pricetracker.be only does redirections and comparisons.


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Titus wrote:
I'm still willing to put effort into the project myself for my webshop www.bluewizard.be however if I notice your shop would turn out best at any time (eg: price update from me would invoke an automatic price update of your prices I will stop any effort, but I think this is a normal reaction isn't it?

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Forget my webshop, this is not about me, this is about all of us. My shop is no different than any other. I see no point in associating 2 different projects under the same umbrella.

This is indeed normal reaction but what difference was it with prijswatch ? It's the nature of comparison engines - encourage competition and attract customers.

Think big. Think what we can do to make it attractive, to make people come back, to attract more customers ourselves. Post webshops promotions on the main page ? Use some sort of consolidated mail list ? I dont know - just give suggestions, i'm willing to put time in development (whenever I have some left besides family, daytime job, webshop and god knows what else).

Yes, i've been frustrated myself too not once when I put my price as low as I can on prijswatch and I see another shop beat me with a dime or a euro just one hour later. That didn't mean to me the that prijswatch was evil. Besides, most shops specialize in their own areas, there are thousands of items that people are looking for, there's no one stop shop that can offer everything.

This is more complementing each other than the opposite. I like to think of competition as friends or as a drive to get better rather than somebody who wants to step on my head and screw me.

As for associations of pricetracker - i can reassure you this is only psychological. And if this would make people feel better, I dont care about changing the domain name to not mention my shop. This is pure administrative because I use the same hosting company and they took my credentials per default. I can always ask them to remove them, may be then this will be regarded otherwise ? (beats me though)

tutin 13th January 2005 08:46

Come on guys, give it a go, you have nothing to lose in this.


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