Intel Bearlake boards kill PS/2 ports

jmke · 7th May 2007, 14:54

Now, here's something of a disappointment. As a person who consistently promoted non-reliance on interrupt-poluted, CPU-hogging USB for basic user input devices, I was quite teed off by the 'backside surprise' on the boards.

While the keyboard PS/2 input was still there, no trace of the green mouse PS/2 jack - instead, two more USB ports.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39439

Rutar · 7th May 2007, 15:36

they also killed most other ports

YAAAAY, finally we're coming closer to my perfect vista motherboard

jmke · 7th May 2007, 15:50

one that doesn't eat memory and allows fast disk to disk file copy ?

easypanic · 7th May 2007, 16:06

bye bye KVM Switch

jmke · 7th May 2007, 17:17

hello USB to 2*PS/2 convertor for €7; works excellent with KVM, tested and verified by JMke (c)

Rutar · 7th May 2007, 17:54

there is still a PS2 port and a firewire to kill

Kougar · 7th May 2007, 18:26

Why on earth would they kill firewire when people still demand it Rutar?

I was surprised to see the lack of the mouse PS/2 port, but honestly it is about time! Most mice are USB anyway. It is nice they had the foresight to add two USB ports instead, incase the user has a USB keyboard they wish to use as well.

Oh, and as Jmke said, my keyboard key based KVM switch works just fine with/without adapters on it.

jmke · 7th May 2007, 19:17

Dell latest machines already come without PS/2 FYI

Rutar · 7th May 2007, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kougar

Why on earth would they kill firewire when people still demand it Rutar?

1. It costs money to have the chip onboard (licence).

2. It clutters the motherboard and the drivers hence slowing things down.

3. Only FW800 has a speed advantage, E-SATA makes FW400 useless.

The actual number of people using firewire would be interesting. My guess it is A LOT lower than people that have it on their motherboard.

Kougar · 7th May 2007, 22:08

1. Intel chipsets don't offer firewire anyway, so no added cost there.

It is added from the individual board manufacturers, and then more often then not only on premium or higher-end range boards at that.

2. Firewire is still in fair demand from both hardware reviewers and end users.

3. There are other reasons for having it besides pure throughput, such as you won't find E-SATA on any home video/digital equipment. And then some devices that do or might use E-SATA offer IEEE1394b support on their devices already.

To stay in topic, anyone seen some detailed info regarding the hardware firewall support of the ICH9 southbridge on Bearlake? The chip is also reported to nix the LPT port as well.

7th May 2007, 14:54	#1
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 78,419	Intel Bearlake boards kill PS/2 ports Now, here's something of a disappointment. As a person who consistently promoted non-reliance on interrupt-poluted, CPU-hogging USB for basic user input devices, I was quite teed off by the 'backside surprise' on the boards. While the keyboard PS/2 input was still there, no trace of the green mouse PS/2 jack - instead, two more USB ports. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39439 __________________

7th May 2007, 15:50	#3
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 78,419	one that doesn't eat memory and allows fast disk to disk file copy ? __________________

7th May 2007, 17:17	#5
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 78,419	hello USB to 2*PS/2 convertor for €7; works excellent with KVM, tested and verified by JMke (c) __________________

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jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 78,419	Dell latest machines already come without PS/2 FYI __________________

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Rutar Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,243	they also killed most other ports YAAAAY, finally we're coming closer to my perfect vista motherboard

7th May 2007, 16:06	#4
easypanic [M] Reviewer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,823	bye bye KVM Switch

7th May 2007, 17:54	#6
Rutar Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,243	there is still a PS2 port and a firewire to kill

7th May 2007, 18:26	#7
Kougar Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,639	Why on earth would they kill firewire when people still demand it Rutar? I was surprised to see the lack of the mouse PS/2 port, but honestly it is about time! Most mice are USB anyway. It is nice they had the foresight to add two USB ports instead, incase the user has a USB keyboard they wish to use as well. Oh, and as Jmke said, my keyboard key based KVM switch works just fine with/without adapters on it.

7th May 2007, 22:08	#10
Kougar Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,639	1. Intel chipsets don't offer firewire anyway, so no added cost there. It is added from the individual board manufacturers, and then more often then not only on premium or higher-end range boards at that. 2. Firewire is still in fair demand from both hardware reviewers and end users. 3. There are other reasons for having it besides pure throughput, such as you won't find E-SATA on any home video/digital equipment. And then some devices that do or might use E-SATA offer IEEE1394b support on their devices already. To stay in topic, anyone seen some detailed info regarding the hardware firewall support of the ICH9 southbridge on Bearlake? The chip is also reported to nix the LPT port as well.