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jmke 17th October 2008 14:13

Foxconn to close doors on end user market?
 
Whispers within the industry are being heard about about Foxconn and their future as a high end motherboard manufacturer. According to the rumours Foxconn are looking to scale back their operations and the end user manufacturing division may get the chop. This would be a blow to the high end user as Foxconn have brought some great motherboards to the market.

Foxconn was founded in 1974, and their end user Foxconn branded motherboard manufacture is only a small part of their business operations. They produce some well known products, such as the iPod and iPhone for Apple, the PS2 and PS3 for Sony as well as producing Intel CPU's. We do not know the reasons why Foxconn would consider ceasing production of their motherboards, and if the rumours prove to be true it will be a sad day for enthusiasts.
http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?..._user_market/1

geoffrey 17th October 2008 18:37

It's only since few years that they started to focus on delivering high-end motherboards for the end-user right? Who will miss them with so many other great brands around?

jmke 17th October 2008 19:37

please name some other large companies which offer high end OC friendly boards? can you name more than 5 ?

since when is less competition better for the end user? :-/

geoffrey 17th October 2008 19:58

Didn't say it was better, but since they have launched their end-user boards I never found a reason to go for Foxconn instead of Gigabyte, ASUS, DFI, Abit, ...

FireTech 17th October 2008 23:53

well if Foxconn does go and abit is just about to go too, then your short options list just got a lot shorter....

Massman 17th October 2008 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke (Post 225076)
please name some other large companies which offer high end OC friendly boards? can you name more than 5 ?

since when is less competition better for the end user? :-/

Since when does Foxconn offer OC friendly motherboards? The BlackOps was, when released, only decent for quadcore FSB overclocking due to the massive cpu pwm area. After 26 bios updates, the board finally hit over 620FSB on a dualcore, but it's not that common.

All other motherboards were not meant for overclockers.

jmke 18th October 2008 01:41

P45 meant for OCers
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Produc.../index_ELA.htm

N780A meant for OCers
http://www.quantum-force.net/Products/P000000005/

AMD 790GX meant for enthusiasts
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Produc...dex_A79A-S.htm

X48 meant for extreme OCers
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000385

enough competitive products to make for an alternative for other brands and surely meant to keep the others at the top of their game because there is always somebody out there waiting to pick up the ball when another mfgr drops it;)

Massman 18th October 2008 10:20

P45 motherboard is a digit-life series, not meant for overclockers. Normally there would've been a Quantum Force P45 motherboard, but that version will never see the retail market.

N780A is meant for overclockers, but has never been better than the others.

790GX is a digit-life series motherboard. Last I've heard, there was going to be a QF motherboard version as well, but haven't seen it anywhere.

Blackops is for extreme overclockers, but way too expensive.

Foxconn adds competition on the market, but that's all. Less competition is worse for the customer, but seen through the eyes of an overclocker the loss of Foxconn isn't that dramatic.

jmke 18th October 2008 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massman (Post 225091)
but seen through the eyes of an overclocker the loss of Foxconn isn't that dramatic.

short term vision that, in the end it might mean less pressure for the others to push their products to the limits, which means less stellar OCs

Massman 18th October 2008 11:35

That conclusion is based on the assumption that the only reason why manufacturers were pushing their products to the limits is because of the competition. Manufacturers will still have to compete against Biostar/Dfi/Gigabyte/MSI/..., so easing up on the high-end products won't be the case, even if Foxconn leaves the market.

jmke 18th October 2008 11:37

there is no scenario here where less competition is better for the end user;)

Massman 18th October 2008 11:41

I didn't say 'better', I said 'less worse than you make it sound'. There are still other players on the high-end overclocking market and they will definitly try to take control over the market that used to be Foxconn's.

jmke 18th October 2008 11:58

does all this have anything to do with VR-Zone owner no longer getting a VISA to get into the country to work for Foxconn?

Massman 18th October 2008 12:18

Shamino was evicted from Taiwan because his Visum expired and Foxconn didn't warn him. After the eviction, he argued with his boss about the ideology behind the QF series, which is supposed to be for overclockers, but in the end needs to sell as well. He left Foxconn and now works for EVGA.

Saaya, member of XS, still works for Foxconn though and there is a new X58 Quantum Force almost ready to be send to their overclocking R&D team, which consist of overclockers all over the world giving feedback, similar to what they've done with the BlackOps.

I reckon it might have something to do with the problems with Shamino, but I'm not sure. Has this message been confirmed yet or is this the only source?

jmke 18th October 2008 12:24

only source I've seen so far. their X58 looks nice:


Massman 18th October 2008 12:27

That's the QF board, notice the 3 memory slots (instead of 6) and awefully placed PCIe slots.

This is the Digit-Life X58:


geoffrey 18th October 2008 13:01

Is that a speaker on top of the chipset? :p

Kougar 19th October 2008 06:05

Foxconn and Biostar were never in the same class... Not seen anything to convince me Biostar is anything beyond a budget enthusiast offering.

As far as Abit goes... if I hadn't seen their own X58 board I would've counted them out already. From what I've heard they already are suffering end-user support issues, especially with BIOS updates.

Edit: Third Foxconn X58 board is the Renasisannce: http://www.dvhardware.net/article27681.html

Massman 20th October 2008 20:12

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=205245

jmke 20th October 2008 20:52

there is no info there!

Massman 20th October 2008 21:24

As much info in there as there is in here.

We're all waiting for Saaya to tell us what's going on, to be honest.

Kougar 20th October 2008 23:42

If being honest... I think some people just got confused about Foxconn ceasing to make NVIDIA cards verses making motherboards.

Makes sense for them to drop out of GPUs. But Foxconn is already a major OEM mainboard maker, much less sense in dropping out of motherboards.

Going over everything, Foxconn has 3 completed X58 motherboard models. Certainly better than most other mainboard companies, certainly doesn't sound like they are considering the mainboard market.


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