ATI Radeon HD 3870 & 3850: A Return to Competition

jmke · 15th November 2007, 15:35

While the Radeon HD 3870 isn't faster than the GeForce 8800 GT, if AMD can hit its price point, it is a viable alternative if you're looking to save money.

AMD is in a lot of trouble however if the 8800 GT pricing/availability problem does get worked out; the 8800 GT does offer better performance-per-watt and better performance in general.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151

jmke · 15th November 2007, 15:37

But the 8800 GT 512Mb doesn't cost $250, it costs €229
http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_in...oducts_id/1064

HD3870 has to go lower than €199 to make up for the performance drop

Rutar · 15th November 2007, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

But the 8800 GT 512Mb doesn't cost $250, it costs €229
http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_in...oducts_id/1064

HD3870 has to go lower than €199 to make up for the performance drop

The Euro is pwning the dollar, that's why it is different.

but still, the 3870 has to lose a few tenners

jmke · 15th November 2007, 15:59

it's not because of the $<>€, otherwise PS3 would not cost €600+ here, but €400.

You'll see same pricing for HD3870, probably €220

Kougar · 15th November 2007, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmke

But the 8800 GT 512Mb doesn't cost $250, it costs €229
http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_in...oducts_id/1064

HD3870 has to go lower than €199 to make up for the performance drop

Yes, PNY 8800GT costs $250 because that is the cheapest price for anyone that still has stock. Link $250 is the price those cards changed to before selling out, just as they note here:

Quote:

Leading up to the day the 8800 GT NDA lifted, you could actually purchase the 8800 GT for as little as $220 from a variety of online vendors. Once the embargo was lifted, the story changed considerably. Prices went from the expected $199 - $249 to a completely unexpected $250 - $300 range.

Now for the HD 3870's, they are in stock at Newegg at $220 each. Pricing will surely go down since they have just launched them.

Quote:

AMD is committed to getting rid of the suffix with its GPU products, so you won't see any XT, LE, PE, FUFME, SE etc... versions of these graphics cards.

Nice

I rather like how they summarized the results. "3870: % of GeForce 8800 GT Performance" Which was mostly 80-95% of the 8800GT. ATI appears to have taken a bad apple (R600) and make an almost sweet apple pie with it. Anandtech's results seem to be better than Legion's, where the 2900XT was somehow outperforming the 3870.

Kougar · 15th November 2007, 19:19

I guess this would explain why Legion's results differed so much.

Techspot and LegionHardware 3870/8800GT reviews are frauds

jmke · 15th November 2007, 19:32

yup, same "work" here:

Legionhardware:
- Intel Core 2 Extreme E6850 (3.00GHz) LGA775
- ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38)

Techspot:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.66GHz) LGA775
- ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38)

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2
&
http://www.techspot.com/article/73-c...nce/page3.html

15th November 2007, 15:35	#1
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 82,497	ATI Radeon HD 3870 & 3850: A Return to Competition While the Radeon HD 3870 isn't faster than the GeForce 8800 GT, if AMD can hit its price point, it is a viable alternative if you're looking to save money. AMD is in a lot of trouble however if the 8800 GT pricing/availability problem does get worked out; the 8800 GT does offer better performance-per-watt and better performance in general. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151 __________________

15th November 2007, 15:37	#2
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 82,497	But the 8800 GT 512Mb doesn't cost $250, it costs €229 http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_in...oducts_id/1064 HD3870 has to go lower than €199 to make up for the performance drop __________________

15th November 2007, 15:59	#4
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 82,497	it's not because of the $<>€, otherwise PS3 would not cost €600+ here, but €400. You'll see same pricing for HD3870, probably €220 __________________

15th November 2007, 19:32	#7
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 82,497	yup, same "work" here: Legionhardware: - Intel Core 2 Extreme E6850 (3.00GHz) LGA775 - ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38) Techspot: - Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.66GHz) LGA775 - ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38) http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2 & http://www.techspot.com/article/73-c...nce/page3.html __________________

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Kougar Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,640	I guess this would explain why Legion's results differed so much. Techspot and LegionHardware 3870/8800GT reviews are frauds