ATI HD 5870 Benchmarks Hit The Web

jmke · 14th September 2009, 14:42

Quote:

Roughly,
HD 5870: +10% to +155% over GTX 285 (in 17 games, total 40 configurations), -25% to +95% compared to GTX 295* with AA/AF enabled (AA: 2x-8x, AF: 8x/16x, in 16 games)
HD 5870 CrossFireX: (2 GPU) +/-0% to +90% over GTX 295 SLI*, (3 GPU) +10% to +160% over GTX 295 SLI* (in 15 games)

HD 5850: -25% to +120% over GTX 285 (in 19 games, total 50 configurations)

src.

jmke · 14th September 2009, 14:42

Here are a few HIGH resolution pics of the HD 5870
some interesting comments on the pics:

Quote:

Very nice pics.

By 28cm you mean the whole card, and not just the PCB, that is, including the mounting bracket and DVI connectors sticking outside the case? The PCB alone should be 26.5cm.

And those pics confirmed the construction of the VRM:
● 4 "digital" vGPU phases with Volterra VT1157SF (never seen these before...), option for a 5th vGPU phase
● new type of vGPU inductor package
● 1 "digital" uncore (GDDR5 IMC?) phase with Volterra VT1157SF, option for a 2nd
● 1+1 "digital" GDDR5 vDD+vDDQ phases with Volterra VT242WF
● 2× Volterra VT1165MF controllers (vGPU & uncore)
● the card is SOFTMOD COMPLIANT, YAY!
● 2×6pin, option for 6pin+8pin - not that it matters, though

It's a strong PWM, overall. The PCB supports VT1195SFs aswell instead just the VT1157SFs installed, so there's an open upgrade path for even more stronger parts.

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more benchies:

Massman · 14th September 2009, 14:47

"Someone calculated that the steps on the vertical axis are 20% (except for the first one which must be 100%). If AMD had chosen 5% for each step, the HD 5870 would have looked even more impressive. Good card. Stupid Graph."

Graph is LOL

thorgal · 14th September 2009, 14:50

That graph is the most misleading I've seen in quite a while. Looks like 5870 would double or more the fps compared to 285, which clearly is NOT the case.

Thanks MM for the clarification.

jmke · 14th September 2009, 14:52

yes the chart without the X axis starting at zero makes it a bit weird; it does show the GTX 285 is being outperformed in all the games listed, and more so when higher AA is enabeld.

the last two charts added above here ^ should give a more realistic view.
either way; it will be a close battle, if HD 5870 is $299 and GTX 285 remains at $299 also http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=Geforce+GTX+285

jmke · 14th September 2009, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorgal

Looks like 5870 would double or more the fps compared to 285, which clearly is NOT the case.

HAWX
GTX 285: 54
HD 5870 : 109
109/2 = 54.5 = more than double

Massman · 14th September 2009, 15:04

Those numbers can't be right; there must be something wrong with either the nvidia or ati results.

It's always like this: "next-gen owns current gen by doubling performance" ... never turns out to be the complete truth.

jmke · 14th September 2009, 15:11

Well, the numbers for GTX 285 are about right, between 50-60fps at 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF; numbers for HD 4870 X2 are too high, should be lower, also 50-60fps. Single HD 4890 sucks in HAWX... 28fps, in that chart it's faster than GTX 285...

source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._13.html#sect2

Massman · 14th September 2009, 15:14

I think that says it all

jmke · 14th September 2009, 15:17

here another source with HAWX 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g....W.X,1337.html
GTX 285: 58.90
HD 4890: 37.90
HD 4870X2: 63.90

14th September 2009, 14:47	#3
Massman [M] Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Waregem Posts: 6,466	"Someone calculated that the steps on the vertical axis are 20% (except for the first one which must be 100%). If AMD had chosen 5% for each step, the HD 5870 would have looked even more impressive. Good card. Stupid Graph." Graph is LOL __________________

14th September 2009, 14:50	#4
thorgal [M] Reviewer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,887	That graph is the most misleading I've seen in quite a while. Looks like 5870 would double or more the fps compared to 285, which clearly is NOT the case. Thanks MM for the clarification. __________________

14th September 2009, 14:52	#5
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,002	yes the chart without the X axis starting at zero makes it a bit weird; it does show the GTX 285 is being outperformed in all the games listed, and more so when higher AA is enabeld. the last two charts added above here ^ should give a more realistic view. either way; it will be a close battle, if HD 5870 is $299 and GTX 285 remains at $299 also http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=Geforce+GTX+285 __________________

14th September 2009, 15:04	#7
Massman [M] Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Waregem Posts: 6,466	Those numbers can't be right; there must be something wrong with either the nvidia or ati results. It's always like this: "next-gen owns current gen by doubling performance" ... never turns out to be the complete truth. __________________

14th September 2009, 15:11	#8
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,002	Well, the numbers for GTX 285 are about right, between 50-60fps at 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF; numbers for HD 4870 X2 are too high, should be lower, also 50-60fps. Single HD 4890 sucks in HAWX... 28fps, in that chart it's faster than GTX 285... source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._13.html#sect2 __________________

14th September 2009, 15:14	#9
Massman [M] Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Waregem Posts: 6,466	I think that says it all __________________

14th September 2009, 15:17	#10
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,002	here another source with HAWX 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g....W.X,1337.html GTX 285: 58.90 HD 4890: 37.90 HD 4870X2: 63.90 __________________

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