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The Senile Doctor 9th April 2004 15:42

psu's in belgium
 
we see plenty of psu reviews on the web and everywhere, but what cheap, good and silent psu's can be bought here in Belgium?

The Senile Doctor 9th April 2004 15:57

which is better for standard p4 3.2 setup with two hdd and one radeon 9800xt and 1 gig ram + 1 dvd-cdrw, 4 casefans?

zalman 400 watt at 100 euro
enermax 430 watt at 110 euro
LEVICOM 450Watt met dual fan at 70 euro
antec 380 watt @92 euro
chieftec420 watt @92.70 euro

Tum0r 9th April 2004 16:59

I know the levicom has alot of connections
If the antec 380 is a truepower its the same as i have.
I modded it so i have control over each rail. Good thing about the psu is all 3 rails are independent.

Psu has no problems running 3.65, 5.5 and 12.9.

FreeStyler 10th April 2004 04:01

I run an AMD XP 1800+ @ 2200MHZ, 2HD, 9800XT, and CD-RW combo, perfectly on a zalman 300W PSU.

400W should be more then enough.

The Senile Doctor 10th April 2004 10:11

well, I ordered that levicom, just to check it out
cheapo gets you anywhere :)
65 euro minus taxes means I pay 35 euro's for it

Sidney 10th April 2004 16:59

Buying PSU is a big gamble, quality wise. You'll never know what you've until you install it. P4 requires more 12V juice than AXP. If you OC P4, I'd recommend getting the highest 500 and over. A nice feature to adjust 12, 3.3 and 5 v rails but the equation remains unchanged Voltage x Amps = watts.

If the store allows you for exchange is the BEST price in my opinion.

Sarcastro 10th April 2004 17:01

I got the Zalman 400 now, and I'm looking at the Tagan480.

DUR0N 12th April 2004 13:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Tum0r
I know the levicom has alot of connections
If the antec 380 is a truepower its the same as i have.
I modded it so i have control over each rail. Good thing about the psu is all 3 rails are independent.

Psu has no problems running 3.65, 5.5 and 12.9.

eurhm? did you actually used those high voltages? trying to blow components?

Tum0r 12th April 2004 15:47

Component should run in 10% of there original specs.

3.3 > 3.63
5 > 5.5
12 > 13.2

Tho my infinity read voltages out lower irl there prolly higher but never over the voltages above.

5v is good when overclocking a radeon altho 5.3 would prolly give me the exat same result.
High 12V line , i dont really know what the nf˛ uses the 12v for.
High 3.3 line is still for my 8rda that ran the Vdimm of that rail. Going up 2v gave me some extra fsb.

DUR0N 12th April 2004 18:14

HD's have a much bigger failrate if voltages go differ more then 3% or so

Tum0r 13th April 2004 00:09

Yea i dont see a point in a high 12v line and that was with the hdd in the back of my mind but piotke asured me as his friend Saaya has run his over ~13.4V.

where do u get this 3% from?

masturbator 13th April 2004 07:57

Where did you buy that levicom for 70 €?

piotke 13th April 2004 08:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Tum0r
Yea i dont see a point in a high 12v line and that was with the hdd in the back of my mind but piotke asured me as his friend Saaya has run his over ~13.4V.
Did I ?

Tum0r 13th April 2004 14:24

No it seems i mistaked u for Teus :)

Quote:

Originally posted by TeuS

my friend saaya ran his fortron PSU with his 12V line at +14V. his CDRW died but the HDD's are still fine

most electrical components stand a voltage toleration of 10%, so 13V is not out of spec


187(V)URD@ 13th April 2004 15:11

my cheap pc case (second pc) + power supply for 40€ does quite well :)

3.3V = 3.31V
5V = 4.95V
12V=12.6~12.9V dunno if that gives me probs.

My other cheap case + 350W power supply for 50€ isn't that bad either.

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ , 2HD , 1casefan , 2CDwriters , floppy , woofers ....


3.3V = 3.312V
5V = 4.84V
12V = 11.9V


But those cheap power supply's don't have much connectors , obvious for such price :)

187(V)URD@ 19th April 2004 17:18

calantak , can you post some information about that levicom when it arrives :)

Where did you buy that levicom because i am gonna buy also a psu in a few weeks.

Roswell 20th April 2004 20:42

@ 187(V)URD@: http://www.prijswatch.be/prod.php?pg=toon&pid=1710

Edit:
Net voor 47 euro een 550w QTEC besteld... 2 eur verzendkosten :o
www.pcboulevard.com

Tum0r 20th April 2004 22:23

Qtec is awfull!

I havnt heard one good thing about it.
If u value my advise a little bit cancel your order and order a decent psu.

Or u could try...

187(V)URD@ 21st April 2004 00:30

mhh langer leveringstermijn staat er .

Well most of the time i buy my hardware HERE

they have got a good choice if you ask me , but still don't know what power supply i want.

The Senile Doctor 22nd April 2004 11:03

levicom was directly available at tones.I'll use it on a p4 rig in june

RichBa5tard 22nd April 2004 15:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Tum0r
Qtec is awfull!

I havnt heard one good thing about it.
If u value my advise a little bit cancel your order and order a decent psu.

Or u could try...

QTec 400W is awful, i agree. But the 550W model is good. Decent voltage rails, very high quality dual fans. I've been running on a 550W qtec for 18 months now, excellent bang for the buck psu in my humble opinion.

kristos 22nd April 2004 16:02

yup, same here. I don't have mine as long as Richbastard but there's a lot of hardware hooked up atm and it keeps it's rails very well.
The 12 and 3.3 V rails never drop below spec and the 5V rail only once dropped below 4.9 and usually ranges arround 4.95V

Tum0r 22nd April 2004 17:35

I hope u guys are right

Does the 550W have sensewires and does it run hot?

RichBa5tard 22nd April 2004 17:54

2*no

Tarantula 22nd April 2004 20:55

my q-tec 550 sucked, and apparently there are two versions, q-tec550 and 550 PFC, mine did not say pfc and it sucked, pfc version should be more stable and costs the same, I also found it to be a very noisy psu :grum:

RichBa5tard 22nd April 2004 21:37

Aah yes, it's indeed noisy, BUT they're nevertheless equipped with highquality fqns. Mine have been working at 5V for 18months, and they're absolutely noiseless (only fans in via epia system) and don't suffer from the too low operating voltage. In contrary to expensive Papst fans they don't start to 'purr' after a few months running below minimal recommended operating voltage (7V).

jmke 22nd April 2004 21:38

I had that happen to a coolink fan when running @ low voltage :-/

Tum0r 22nd April 2004 22:19

550W for a epia?
just how many hdd do u have?

RichBa5tard 22nd April 2004 22:41

The Qtec 550W was the only regular PSU i had at the time i bought the epia system... and it was the most silent one too (with fans running at 5V), so it seemed like a logical choice. : )

Actually, the 550W qtec had no problems powering the epia system (~75W) fanless.

187(V)URD@ 6th May 2004 16:24

calantak how is that levicom psu ?

The Senile Doctor 6th May 2004 18:39

haven't used it yet :)
it's meant for implementation in future rig, and that one needs a socket 939

jmke 6th May 2004 19:08

by the time the S939 comes out, your levicom will have rusted in its place :p

The Senile Doctor 6th May 2004 19:44

probably, and the sp94 besides it too
:)

IKilledMyAGOIA 6th May 2004 20:21

the antec or enermax would probably be most reiable, zalman will be quietest/coolest

my friend had the sonata version of the 380w with only one fan, and ir runs fien with axp 3400+, 98pro, gig ram, cdrw, dvdrw, and 5 hds (maxtor 80g with os, 2x80g st7200.7 ATA, 2x st7200.7 SATA in raid) he only had that crazy hd setup to test raid performance, but it worked perfectly on the antec

The Senile Doctor 22nd May 2004 20:28

levicom 450 watt psu installed.
2250 mhz @ 1.70 Vcore
load : +12v 12.60 v (!)
+5v : 4.70...

hmmm...

187(V)URD@ 22nd May 2004 20:38

bit low 5v line

TeuS 22nd May 2004 21:03

are there adjustment pots inside?

Erik701 22nd May 2004 22:25

Well. I think you are all overrating the hw consumption.

Currently, my main rig has a Superflower 370w psu.
Nf7-s
2500+
2x 512 corsair pc3200
raptor 36gb 10000 rpm
2x 80gb maxtor 7200rpm 8mb
16x DVD
52x cdrw
8x dvdrw
r9800pro
gbit nic
10/100 nic
gametheater XP
5x papst 80mm

+12v: 12.07
+5v: 5.13

TeuS 22nd May 2004 23:05

keep in mind: are the PSU's with Active or Passive PFC?

it's a whole world of difference, an aopen 300W PSU with active PFC powers my entire nforce˛ setup

The Senile Doctor 23rd May 2004 05:57

setting my vcore to 1.825 makes the pc unbootable ...
it falls out when it enters windows, and the psu needs to be unplugged for the pc to reboot :(


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